oldmanfan

Not just gooder, but more gooder.

My guess, and it's just a guess of course, is that the use of the Latin phrase there means the poster is a gladiator.

"Because the baseline for accuracy in those days was 60%. If you were over 60% you were accurate in the pros. Today that's creeped up to 62-65% coming out of college" The above is a direct quote from you from page 109 of this thread. So there you go on the 62% thing. Your answer confirms what I suspected; you don't know how statistics work. 58.6% is not different than 60% statistically, when looking at Allen's work this past season, because the sample size is not nearly enough to say that. And that matters. Just looking at a number and believing it means something is a trap way too many people fall into. So let's move to the following. If Allen improved from 58.6% to 72%, would I accept that? Well, let's do the analysis. A quick power analysis says that such a difference would have meaning based on a sample size of about 250, or 16 throws a game. I suspect he would meet that. So yes, that would be a meaningful improvement. Not then, let's move to this quote: "#'s are generally true because they generally are" . I have to tell you, that is just statistically silly. Laughable really. Do you have any idea how easy it is to either support or deny a given position just by playing with numbers? As I pointed out above, I review a lot of scientific manuscripts and reject many precisely because they play with numbers to try and make things seem what they are not. Your background is relevant because you claim to use stats to support your arguments. Thus, your understanding of the meaning of stats either lend credence to your arguments, or detract from them. Since you clearly do not understand stats (as so dramatically pointed out by saying numbers are generally true because they generally are), you have no more credence over anyone else around here expressing an opinion. As I said above, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But let's not think your opinion is more factually based than others, since you don't really understand what you're talking about.

I don't believe you understand the concept of neuroplasticity, and I say that as one who has taught neuroanatomy and physiology for decades. Neuroplasticity refers to changes in synaptic connections that occur in the brain in response to altered environments, such as occurs with brain injury, or learning, or such. New synaptic connections are formed, and other lost, as the brain responds. You are implying that Allen cannot develop much because at his age he has behaviors locked in that cannot be easily changed. That is simply not true. Plasticity used to be thought of as a childhood phenomenon, but more recent research and understanding indicates that plasticity is not limited to any age. This is seen most dramatically in stroke victims, where different areas of the brain can reprogram and take over functions that were associated with the stroke-affected area. Allen certainly is not so old that he cannot learn more or be coached to perform different tasks differently. To suggest that would imply that learning ability is lost in one's early 20's, which is of course ridiculous. I will politely also point out that your concept of statistics is faulty. Just quoting stats like a certain completion rate is inadequate. It is whether such stats have any meaning that is critical, and you fall into the trap many fall into by quoting stats with no real understanding of how the stats were developed and whether their derivation is appropriate. You threw out that Allen is a worse passer that a guy with a 60% completion rate because 58.6% is less that 60%. Not true. Are your familiar with the concept of the power of an analysis? Power refers to how many observations that are needed to validate statistical differences between samples. With the number of passes Allen threw last year, there is no statistical difference between 58.6% and 60%. He would have to throw thousands of passes for the difference to have validity. You also just threw out that, for college passers coming out of college, that 62% is the number that needs to be shown for success in the NFL, with absolutely no justification for doing so. Having an opinion is one thing; you're welcome to that one for all it means, which is really nothing. But if you're going to stand up and say that you cite stats as part of the debate, then you need to show folks why the stats you cite are meaningful in any way. I review dozens of scientific manuscripts a year for professional journals, and I reject most. And the reason why is generally one of two: inappropriate statistical analysis, or poor study design that more tries to meet an author's per-formed conclusion vs. a true analysis of data. You seeem guilty of both. I have my doctorate and as pointed out above have taught neuroanatomy and physiology, and have graduate training is statistics and study design. I tend to be a nerd about that stuff around here because I think folks chronically misuse and abuse stats in looking at NFL play. If you'd like to share your background so we can accurately assess your knowledge base on things like stats and neuroplasticity, I and I am sure others would welcome that.

For the old folks, two words: Harvey Johnson

I’ve covered this before. There is no statistical difference between 58.6% and 60% given the sample size of passes thrown. You have no understanding of statistics it would appear. Similar to your throwing around neuroplasticity and intimating folks can’t learn after a certain age (and as I said above I teach neuroanatomy and physiology). Throw in your ignoring actual written material about the example you gave (Brees) and your ignorance in equating accuracy and completion percentage even though that has been debunked time and time again and let’s just say your opinions don’t carry much weight. Oh, and your arbitrarily setting new standards for completion percentages? Get over yourself.

Allen needs to work on pre-snap reads. Quicker decisions will allow him that split second or so to set up and throw. When he has time to set up his mechanics overall are fine.

Wow. My dream comes true. Sign me right up.

If we take coaching as comparable to teaching, it’s interesting that someone above has claimed you can’t learn much between ages 18 and the early/mid 20’s. Guess we might as well close all the colleges, grad schools, medical schools, etc., etc. Allen progressed this past year. There is no neuroelastic reason to assume he won’t continue to learn and progress. We’ll see how he does. And I teach both neuroanatomy and physiology by the way.

The NFL. Figure out what works, and then fix it so it's broken.

Damn the luck

He improved yer 2. He should improve even more year 3.

Sympathies and prayers to you and your family.

I figured Reid would mess it up but he didn’t. Good for him.

She’s a real fighter and one of the few women in her field. Her students just love her.

So while I sit in my living room in Carmel IN, just north of Indy, preparing to watch the game, my wife and sister-in-law are Lyfting to Hard Rock Stadium. My sister-in—law is the strength coach of a local high school and was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer in 2015. After big time surgery and chemo she is still with us, and the oncologists think she’ll be Ok although she’ll be on chemo the rest of her life. Despite her health issues she continued throughout being dedicated to her athletes, working many overtime hours with them, never missing games. On of her former athletes wrote a letter to the Colts about my sister-in-law’s issues and how inspiring she is to her students. And the Colts were touched by her story. They decided to give her an all expense paid trip for two to the game, flights, hotel, tickets, spending money, the whole nine yards. My older daughter who lives in Orlando picked them up Friday afternoon, they spent all day yesterday at the NFL experience with all their Bills gear in representing, and just got word the wife and sister-in-law have arrived at Hard Rock! Just had to share with my friends here on the board.

Love Marv. Don’t think he’s HOF worthy myself but there is no denying that he was a blessing to the team and the community.

I don't hate any player for not palying well. I don't hate any player for leaving in free agency. But I do hate the one guy, Davis, for quitting on his team at half time. Only Bill I can ever say I hated.

I hope you realize neither Oakland nor San Diego have NFL teams.

They beat on the Bills stadium. Yet they build a 2 billion dollar Taj Mahal in LA that fans won’t come to because they’re not into the NFL. The Pegula just had an outside consultant finalize recommendations Roger. Why not let the thing play out before bitching?.

She grew up in WNY.

As far as ticket prices go, when I return to visit what I see is that the restaurant parking lots are full. Folks are downtown for different festivals, etc. As near as I can tell, people have some disposable income for entertainment. So use it on the Bills and pay a little more for tickets. I say again, as long as Kim Pegula is the owner the Bills aren’t going anywhere. Terry as I recall wanted the Sabres, but Kim being a WNYer wanted the Bills. My bet is they build downtown, but I can see another big facelift of The Rich. Apparently the outside evaluation is done so they should be making their decision soon.

As long as Kim Pegula is an owner of the Bills, they aren't moving. My bet is they build a new stadium downtown somewhere.

It hit DiMarco in the hands and if he jumps a split second later it’s complete. Denying that Allen threw it to where he could catch it is asinine. Saying it was a bad throw is equally asinine. You can argue the choice but he put it where the receiver should have caught it. Could he have checked it down? Yes. Does he need to continue developing his ability to read defenses. Yes. I’ve said that repeatedly so try reading what people actually write.

Insane but maybe in a good way?