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true that, it wasn't really an Allen , Luck comparison to begin with, but I do belive Allen could have the same bad luck under similiar circumstances. The point I was trying to bring home to you transplant is with a new coaching and system installation comes growing pains which the QB will have to endure. When all the kinks are out and the Bills Oline shows an ability to protect properly the playing field would be better suited for a young QB prospect in my humble opinion Let McCarron do what we brought him here to do... On a side note I see ESPN has Buffalo ranked last in the NFL on confidence at the QB position.

The highest odds for Allen is a reflection of the experience at the position each team has IMO. McCarron is very limited in comparison when it comes to experience.

absolutely

Can you honestly say Buffalo is giving Allen a good supporting cast and system to play in before regular season begins because I don't think you can. Oline is a big question mark, something we can agree on. You can't go back and do things over once you trash a young QB prospects confidence IMO. We have a smart HC so I'm going to have faith in the process...

I've watched good QB prospects become damaged goods over the years because of a teams poor judgement on whats considered an adequate supporting cast / coaching /system in place and functioning properly to provide everything a young prospect needs to succeed IMO. I'll use A Luck as an example because I believe under better circumstances Lucks career as a pro may have gone better both from an achievement and health standpoint in my humble opinion. Trent Edwards is another example that hits closer to home. So with all due respect transplant its not just a question of who shows the most talent through training camp and preseason which can't duplicate regular season play, its a question of what is wise for the young QB prospect by way of development.

Myself personally, the Bills are in somewhat of a rebuild mode, especially on O with new coaching/ system installation. The wise approach is to allow the more experienced McCarron take the bumps and bruises until the supporting cast /system is established and fully operational in my humble opinion. Josh Allen is Buffalo's future, I get that, and I'm as excited as the next guy to see him play.

Always a pleasure to hear your thoughts, finding the middle ground, I like that summary thanks for the reply

My thoughts also... Having enough intel by halftime to make intelligent adjustments is a key point in my humble opinion. Myself personally, players practice so they can go out and execute plays properly and the more deviation from the original game plan the more likely you will have less success executing in my humble opinion. Some of the best teams in the league can get away with drastic changes on the fly because they have some of the most talented, experienced and well coached players in the league with everyone on the same page. Easier said then done in my humble opinion...

So who is making these swift adjustments? The OC and DC without the HC approval? I don't think so, shall we take a timeout to discuss it among coaches? probably not

Belichick and Saban at the college level might be an exception to the rule. Don't you think the athletes themselves may need time to adjust to what the oppositon is trying to do, weather, field conditions, before scrapping anything? Maybe its just me , but when you start scrapping your game plan at the 1st sign of resistance players might lose confidence in what their doing on the football field in my humble opinion. Especially at the college level. Good discussion OP

Good post, makes for an interesting discussion The reason I agree with the coaches response of doing more harm then good sometimes is because you build much of your original game plan based on your own team strengths in my humble opinion. I'll use Buffalo as an example. The Bills with Taylor behind center was a run 1st O because its what they did well. Throwing the football, not so much and now by changing the Bills gameplan early on stopping the run, its also playing into Buffalo's weakness. Dictated by the opposition in just a couple of series that wants Buffalo to try beating them throwing the football. with all due respect sir,

Myself personally, Halftime is a better time to regroup IMO, give your original game planning a chance to work...

McCarron may play well enough to make the QB position in Buffalo very interesting to say the least in my humble opinion. Myself personally, the one two punch might go McCarron /Allen for a few years... ...which is probably the best case scenario for all concerned... ...my OldTime friend... ...I'm just saying...

J K was not shy when it came to fitting footballs into small windows because he could, throw a couple INT's, come back with 3 TD's D did their job... ...Loved it...

Throwing across his body on the run at high velocity, Good percentage of Allens TD's thrown while under pressure/scrambling reminiscent of Big Ben. MERCY

kid reminds me allot of Elway...

We all argue about who should start until the sun comes up everyday, but we'll probably do that anyway...

Myself personally, A J McCarron is an important factor in how well Josh Allen acclimates to the NFL. Having many of the same attributes excluding arm strength McCarron's game management skills will make for a good example in my humble opinion. Best case scenario is for J Allen to stand on the sidelines for a few seasons watching McCarron play great IMO. Win, win situation...

Myself personally, most TBD patrons that frequent the board treat other posters with the same amount of respect thats given regardless of what teams they root for in my humble opinion. Ice bowl 67 has been a respected member of more then one Bills forum for years. (BBMB) ...because he's a class act... ...I loved our draft ice...

Oline had no meaning to Russ Brandon are my worse memories. ( killed Trent) Selling tickets/marketing are my best memories. Its a New Era...

Going on close to two decades I think Bills fans just want a good QB in my humble opinion. Obsessed? you could say that...

I hope all Bills fans at the very least can share this perspective.

I think A J McCarron is going to make Josh Allen work his ass off If he ever wants to see the playing field. Good mentor for Allen in my humble opinion.

What accuracy problems, lol

no its not everything, but good to have in your arsenal my friend, Allen could take a defenders head off with that kind of velocity... ...that'll teach em...