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I was in 9th grade at the time and I think I would have been too young to understand the enormity of it except that was the first time I saw my parents cry.

Yup good call I would have said Eddie Lacy Yikes I feel that

Almost like Vegas knows how to make money

Hope you had this at open and not 53.5

They could just kneel it you might be ok

Trying to help me cover😂😂

As has been discussed, any top guy guy getting a new contract is always an auto-reset. They are definitely NOT mutually exclusive

He's going to get significant minutes one way or another this year.

I think pretty much everyone knew White's deal was a discount once terms were disclosed

Public is all on Bills...sticking with close game, Bills win Jets cover game goes under

Seems important

Now we talking

Bomb to Dimarco

Well for starters I know it’s not a book

Still waiting for you though

Blue on white is best kit in the league

You mean Chiefs?

No. You're just saying things that have nothing to do with what we were discussing. My contention is that defense has nothing to do with QB development. Short field, long field, up by 50, down by 3, doesn't matter...there's no correlation between how good your QB turns out and the quality of your defense early in his career.

Your contention is that short fields and playing with a lead is conducive to quarterback development?

There's no way you can read through what I posted and come to that conclusion honestly. Are you under the impression that I was the one that brought those QBs into the discussion? To reiterate because it seems you missed my point: those quarterbacks would have been eventually been great regardless of the quality of their teams' defenses early in their careers. A team's defense has little to no influence on how its quarterback develops.

IMO make my point w/ the Wilson example. He blossomed into a top QB when that defense took a step back. Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger...there’s not much correlation between their performance and the relative quality of their defenses over time. If you want to talk about QB job security vis a vis Allen/Rosen and how that’s impacted by a good defense, I’d probably agree but that’s a different conversation.

It’s a 4/10 if we’re being honest

The TEAM benefits from a good defense. QB abilities and performance are completely unrelated to defensive quality.

It give a QB more opportunities to put up statistics, which is what I said. It’s not necessarily a benefit, so I didn’t say that. You, however, tried to make the point that a good defense DOES benefit QB play, which is tenuous and unsupported by the evidence.

You realize a QB has more opportunities to put up stats (or showcase abilities) when they have a bad defense, not fewer, as offenses are statistically more likely to run the ball when the game is close or they're ahead.