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I wonder if they ever think "hmm maybe we should get a punt return to go at least five yards before we pack it in this year."

It is insane how bad our receivers are. That's the easiest catch he'll ever see and it goes right through his hands. How many tens of thousands of dollars did he just get paid to ham fist a cake toss?

I don't think so. Fumbling out of your own end zone prevents two scenarios: getting tackled for a safety anyway, or the other team recovering for a touchdown (meaning the other team would end up with at least two points regardless of the outcome). Fumbling out of your opponents' end zone prevents one scenario: you scoring a touchdown (meaning the other team saves 7 points and should count their lucky stars they get a crack at holding you at the spot of the fumble).

Should be treated like a fumble anywhere else on the field. Placed at the spot of the fumble since a fumble can't advance the ball. Currently, it's way too much of a reward to the defense for allowing the other team to get to the goal line and then getting the ball on a fluke. That would be better. Penalize the team that fumbled, but don't reward the other team.

I don't know if I'd call it really bad. He had one that was just a perfect pass and catch against Anderson on the sideline and then a TD to Anderson where he had to cover him for over ten seconds.

McDermott gets out-coached a lot. His greatest strength (and it is a big one) is that he gets maximum effort from his players. But he is continually embarrassed in game planning and in-game decisions.

Darnold had a clean pocket all game. Our defense did not show up today. Allen might have had 3 snaps with a clean pocket and a ton of drops. Our offensive line and receivers did not show up all year.

Yeesh. That was a very winnable game. Poor play all around in key moments.

Have we returned a kickoff past the 20 all year? Our ST's are so bad.

Nice throw, but it was late. Even if Zay caught it there was no way he could have stayed in bounds.

Should not be attempting a 54 yard field goal with a hurt kicker. And Zay could have given us a huge boost by not dropping a piece of cake pass.

I think our RB's are fine. The line can't open any holes and there are defenders in the backfield immediately on every run play.

How many block in the back calls do we get? And they don't call that hit on Hauschka.

That is categorically false. Like a lot of posters here, they will give credit for good plays and criticism for bad ones. You only hear the criticism because you can't fathom that Allen isn't perfect. Also, oh my god are you delusional. Tyrod was probably criticized more than any fanbase has ever criticized a quarterback. I'd wager that a fair amount of people who put 100% of the blame on Clay for that last play also put 100% of the blame on Tyrod for the last play against Carolina last year.

Do you have any evidence of Hughes quitting on plays? That's a pretty outlandish claim considering how many QB pressures he gets.

When you see an offensive tackle get beat to the outside and extend his arm outside his shoulders to wrap up the defender, it's almost always called holding. It's rarely called when it's Hughes. If you watch for that kind of play, you'll see that he gets around the edge better than almost all pass rushers but he's always fighting that extended arm up in his shoulders / neck area.

He gets a ton of pressures. If he weren't held on every play, he'd have elite edge rusher numbers.

He was getting wide open. It's easier to come back for a ball than trying to go deeper. Allen would have hit him right in the chest most of the time. The ball came out of his hand wrong and Clay didn't make the play. They both took responsibility for that play after the game, which they should. Clay is definitely more at fault for not catching a catchable ball, but it wasn't the pass Allen wanted either.

Personal foul on Phillips, pass interference on Milano, several holding calls. It's more about the missed calls against Miami. If you're going to call soft penalties you need to throw the flag for mugging Zay, holding Hughes, and roughing Allen.

The idea of "earning calls" infuriates me. Every player on the field has earned the right to a fair game. Otherwise it's not a sport anymore. It's just theater.

If they used their eyes to make calls, they wouldn't make as many mistakes. The problem is that they look at a situation and try to use context clues to make a call. Receiver flops, must be pass interference. Defensive end throws his hands in the air, must be holding. Quarterback stays on the ground after getting hit, must be roughing the passer. When they're being subjective like that, their opinion of the team or player comes into play. Oh Brady got hit hard? Personal foul. Oh Allen got clotheslined? Not enough evidence. They should only be making calls if they actually see it happen. I would be totally fine with more missed calls if we got rid of all the ones that are subjective.

No they're not. They're saying what every reasonable person is saying. It should have been caught, but it could have also been a better pass.

It hit him in the hands because he dove for it. Still should have been caught, but a "good pass" wouldn't have fluttered down the field (like a couple did today) and would have gotten to a wide open receiver without him diving. Good lord, if people don't say Allen is a 100% perfect Hall of Fame worthy golden child, y'all get so pissy.