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It was obvious to me that this team wanted to see what they had in Tyrod Taylor and see if he could fit what they wanted for a QB as the man does have the wherewithal to be a starter in the NFL, albeit not quite good enough. I think that Saints game clinched what this FO thinks of TT. Some of the offensive coaches stunk and the primary reason as to why former Bills OC Dennison now works for the NY Jets. I'd like to see Juan Castillo as the run game coordinator/line coach follow him to NY because the rush offense really wasn't very good for most of the season with basically the same players. I dunno, perhaps McD feels there is hope for the guy considering what he did for shady in Philly. The biggest dropoff from what I saw was in the run game and that was the primary focus of the offense. If the run game doesn't work for a run first team with a limited QB then the offense will usually fail. Yea, sure McCoy finished 4th in yards which was better than 2016 @ 6th, or 2015, @12th. But I attribute that more to McCoys ability to make tacklers miss over the line blocking. From PFF, Buffalo ranked 22nd. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-by-average-grade-week-5?utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=cjaff "However, the issues come with run-blocking, where basically everyone but Incognito has a poor grade so far. The Bills run more outside zone plays than anyone in the league, leading the NFL with 76 attempts, but they rank just 17th in yards before contact, averaging just 1.06 yards on these plays." Like I said, most of the talking heads had this team tanking/rebuilding this season and yet for the first time in 17 years they made the playoffs. I'll reserve my complaining about anyone until next year at this time. Unless of course, it's about Juan Castillo EDIT: on another note Bills fans need to realize that neither Woods nor Watkins would be worth the money they got or will get from the Rams with a QB like Tyrod throwing to them. Even for the Rams with Geoff throwing, Woods was the 38th best receiver in the league this year.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/4-reasons-qb-baker-mayfield-play-browns-no-1-draft-pick-225648068.html

Except the current coaches recognized that the players on the roster didn't fit the schemes/system they wanted to run so they traded away some and brought in some they wanted. This was supposedly a tank/rebuilding year after the team traded away certain players/stars and yet because they had the players they needed the team finished 9-7 and made the playoffs. Why can't some people be happy with that?

Nobody complains more than me about a bad FO, HC, coach or whatever and this regime after one winning season somehow found a formula for success. The team was exceedingly lucky to even make the playoffs despite this being a supposed "tank" season after trading away some team stars. 17 years man, 17 years and we didn't need to wait more than one season! These men have a vision as to what they want to build and IDGAF how they do it or get it done as long as playoffs and contending for the AFC EAST is in the future for this franchise. What I see when the smoke cleared from this past season is the Bills dumped an often injured crybaby at WR who would have needed to be paid somewhere in the 14 mill per range and that could get to 16 mill per if they need to tag him. The Bills finally found that big, tall red zone target that the team has needed in forever at 6'5'' 243 in KB and all I have is praise for this FO so far. The next step is finding that franchise QB that will actually be in the top 15 in yards, stats instead of the bottom 15 every season.

Yeah, but he did actually make me laugh. then I thought it would be great to let Peterman leave for the Jets so we can pick him 5x in games...in the first half.

I think you may have it all wrong as it was Doug Whaley and his scouting staff were the people that failed to recognize quality QB talent. That is a big reason as to why Whaley and that scouting staff were all fired and replaced. Beane wasn't even hired at that point and McD had to rely on Whaley and his scouts. As I understand how things went it was Whaley that set up the draft board and McDermott made the actual selections. I also think we need to wait and see what these new scouts do/say that might actually know what they are doing vs the old crew that didn't even make notes when watching players. Also, new Bills GM Beane explains his process http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/01/brandon_beane_explains_what_it_would_take_for_buffalo_bills_to_trade_up_in_draft.htmlzxsd Just a thought that if the team does trade up for a QB and misses on that choice it will set the team back a few years. OTOH, the right selection should set the franchise for a decade.

Lots of teams love the guy because of his 70% accuracy! Both Brees and Russell have proven you don't need to be over 6 ft plus. He will be long gone by 15 I'll bet.

No need as this could be a first. All those teams could be looking for a QB this year and that is nearly half the teams in the league. Count'em up as that's 14/15 teams. I suspect that there could be as many as six or more QB's taken in the first round this year and those six could be in the first fifteen depending on what transpires in free agency. Check out what a writer for the NFL thinks 12 teams with QB needs this year, Cleveland, Giants, Broncos, Jets that's four in the first ten. Four In the next 10, Bengals, Redskins, Cardinals, Chargers and the Miami FO has stated that they will go BPA and should that player be a QB they will take him. It has also been noted that the Ravens are looking at QB's. In the next ten, Bills, Saints, Steelers, Patriots and should the Jags move on from Bortles. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000855915/article/2018-nfl-draft-order-and-team-needs-nos-2132

Same, as he is gone by pick six IMO. #1 Cleveland=NEED, Sam Darnold #2 NY Giants=NEED, Josh Rosen # 3Indy #4 Cleveland #5 Denver=NEED, Josh Allen #6 NY Jets=NEED, Baker Mayfield - #13 Washington- Cousins gone=NEED, Lamar Jackson -#15 Arizona=NEED, Mason Rudolph The Bills will need to trade up to # 3 or 4 to get a QB not named Rosen/ Darnold. The Miami Dolphins FO has even stated that if the BPA @ #11 is a QB they will take one. Besides Miami, the Ravens, Chargers, Steelers, Saints, Jags, Vikings, Patriots could all be looking for a QB. On a side note, just think the Browns offered the Patriots one of their first rounds picks for Garappolo and they turned them down.

The Bills FO was so blazingly stupid with stuff like this under Brandon. He probably watched the movie moneyball and decided that would be good for the Buffalo Bills...then the team went out and spent 100 million on super Mario to drive up ticket sales. It wasn't about building a championship team to actually compete against the Patriots as it was more all about selling tickets like a huckster. Looking back it was his own stupidity that did him in, with his contact with HC Doug Marrone. If he hadn't given him that buy out clause then the Bills might still have Marrone, Whaley, Brandon leading this franchise. On another note, now that Andrew Luck will have Josh McDaniels as his HC in Indy and DeShaun Watson is back healthy with the Texans I highly doubt the Jags repeat in getting into the playoffs for 2018.

Well, considering Darnold will probably be the first QB off the board I doubt the Bills will land him. Anything anyone says from a team standpoint is most likely just smoke because they don't want their real intentions known to anyone. As far as the ZERO interest in Mayfield, Jackson, and Rudolph can't be believed because if one of those guys is there when they pick they will take them. I get the idea they might even trade up for Mayfield.

It certainly didn't help EJ that he had no QB coach in his first NFL season. Nor did he have a veteran QB on the roster to learn from and in fact, the only teacher he had was Nathaniel Hackett as his OC was someone who had never been an NFL OC in the past. Not to mention the offensive line the kid started behind was one of the worst in the NFL. I firmly believe that coaching is everything and EJ was put in a situation that was almost imposable for him to achieve good success. As far as Allen goes it's his lack of top accuracy to around 50% and his low TD to INT ratio that worries me. Some scouts love the guy and think he is a top ten pick because of his physical traits and other say he is a 2nd to 3rd round pick because of his inaccuracy. Gonna be interesting to see what everyone says after the senior bowl and combine.

From what I gather this FO is going after another bridge QB who could easily take this team further in the playoffs. Cousins #7 could be a guy who could lead them to the SB next year. Alex Smith #8, Case Keenum #12 and even Blake Bortles was #11 all fit that mold. Perhaps its just me, but I don't see an elite franchise QB from day one either (just yet) in this year's draft class and I also don't see a player worth giving up the farm for to move up to the top five. Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Mason Rudolph, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Luke Faulk. The Only guy I think would be worth a move up for is Baker Mayfield due to his 70% accuracy and although he is currently graded as the third/fourth best QB I don't see him getting by the Broncos at 5th or the NY Jets at 6th.

Mayfield will go in the top 5 and might even go earlier as teams drool over his accuracy. Allen is the one with the big arm with many concerns with his low accuracy and low TD/ INT ratio. JMO

Well said and what I was attempting to convey. The only rookie QB I would think this team would go after is Mayfield because of his 70% accuracy and I feel the same way about taking a QB later on while using those first picks for quality starters. I trust the process with these men and that is something that I couldn't say over the past decade.

Any QB taken in this draft will need to properly develop to what the NFL does and how it works. The speed of the game is the biggest difference and I suspect that any QB drafted this year will take a few years to develop into being an NFL winner. There are of course a few exceptions but it would be foolish to hope that the QB selected will be an exception. Looking at this year's overall record at 9-7 with a roster filled with holes and a QB ranked 22nd, 25th, 25th the last three seasons. I think it would be in the Bills best interest to find a better bridge QB like Bradford (16th), Keenum (12th), Brees (4th), Smith (8th), McCown (23rd) or go all out for a starter in Cousins (7th) and then use all those picks to fill the holes. Besides, we need to wait until after the senior bowl and the combine to see the final QB rankings. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson might be up into those first three. If this new regime and scouting dept knows their stuff then perhaps they will find that diamond at 21,22.

I was chided for mentioning that during the game and it was true. Hackett called a brilliant game at times and later on went into his stupid mode as he called for 2x runs at midfield only to keep putting Bortles in 3rd and long until he eventually failed. Then with the team backed up in their own end zone he calls for 2x passes and a run on 3rd and long. It's as if Hackett was intent on taking Bortles out of his rhythm. All this makes me think that perhaps Bortles isn't half as bad as he looks at times and could really use a quality OC over Hackett, Greg Olsen. It makes me wonder what OCs like Doug Pederson, Pat Shurmur would do for him. In any event, if Tom Coughlin saw what we all saw then I think somethings will change and it won't be their QB.

Anyone else notice what they just did to that #1 defense the Vikes have? May the Schwartz be with them

They both fail at bringing a team back like Brady did in this game. Like Drees does, like Manning used to do. Like Elway used to do! Like Montana used to do! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm Tyrod is on par with JP Losman with 3 career comebacks Kirk Cousins has 8, Alex Smith has 19. Jim Kelly had 22.

Bahahahahahaha Jags get the turnover!

Ahh, the true Nate Hackett shows up. At midfield, he runs it 2x making Bortles get the first. Now backed up in their own end zone he throws it 2x and then runs on 3rd down

I concur!

what goes around...comes around

Bortles looking good so far, hope he keeps it going

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