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Side question: if you got good enough play out of someone would you consider lowering Milanos snaps some? Obviously not in high leverage situations.

His 5 year average is number 11 by the huddle report and had the best mock draft they tracked in 2017. Looks like they track 100 ish mocks in 2019. Obviously only professionals. https://www.thehuddlereport.com/mock.scores.shtml

Yeah I think that’s a problem too. I like the parity in the league and comp picks don’t help that.

Im jumping all over Edwards in the 4th. Sheesh its a deep class.

I think your friends are hilarious. You either got a cheap corner or cut as Shaw said (they haven’t pissed anything away). He also got multiple offers and sounds like one may have been higher than our offer. Laugh at what their jets and giants are doing at CB.

Did Beane or Schoen watch any of his games? I don’t think they are taking him if neither saw him.

I think if Joshs biggest flaw next year is his athleticism then we are in a really good spot.

I would add waddle to that list and inactivate bates on game days.

Please let this happen. Rivers in the cold and behind that line would be great to watch. I think he’s going to Indy where they have a line and play indoors.

Poyer was considered bad in Cleveland but before he came I thought he could be good (one of the few threads I have started). I’m down with olgetree. I have also heard AJ Klein’s name tossed around a lot too. I think that’s a good fit too

3 plays from the one against the Washington potatoes tells me that the Bills needed josh for some of those TDs cause the RBs weren’t cutting it.

To me it’s about contract. Diggs is under contract at a reasonable price for 4 years. Golladay is gonna command a lot of money because of his play last year and continued growth next year.

Thanks. Good to hear someone else is seeing similar things. Honestly when I saw Greenard I thought of LorAx a lot not sure his draft position is gonna be worth that role though. I need to put the Chaisson tape on but have heard similar comments about him. I really did not like the Gross Matos tape. Anae was pretty good for the one game I watched but I’ll put that one back in. Honestly Epenesa I thought was clearly the best of the next tier and i would be very happy with him in April

Dont know what your thoughts on him are but would like to hear. I put the Greenard tape in the other day. I really liked what I saw but his athleticism had me a bit worried (Mizzou LT seemed to have his number). He may have that elite hand usage though. The rip and swim across the OL is pretty deadly. I'll say that I think Greenard looked to be winning his 1 on 1 match ups at a high rate and wasnt just the benefit of pressure from others.

I’ve wanted to win the division for a while. This looks a great year for that. I think I maybe more worried about the Jets and their 3rd place schedule than I am the pats (particularly if Brady doesn’t return).

San Fran picked ahead of last year. Feel like they bottomed out and got good value for it.

Oh I am def higher on Harry than Star. And I am super excited for next year when Harry and Oliver are on the field together especially in a nickel package.

I think you said it up thread. They knew they had to roll with him this year. So lessen the hit this year and he’s probably gone next year. If that’s the plan I’m ok and I also share your concerns about not working hard enough.

Any thoughts that they roll with Harry and Oliver as 3 techs and the replace Phillips with a moderate priced 1 tech?

I dont know what to say if you dont want use statistical analysis? Stop using stats in your arguments then I guess (the scientific part doesnt change that its still statistical analysis). Are we really certain Derek Carr and Fitzy arent comparable? Carr >> Fitz for completion and also did better in Ints & yards; Fitz had similar TDs and more comebacks (better clutch). I think Watson is really the one that breaks this analysis, but honestly his ability as a passer is second to what he does with his legs imo so its not totally out of line there (TDs and Ints for those two are very similar; diff is comp %). I will admit this analysis works better for the 32 teams, but I think works ok here with QBs. I think you just showed that these are reasonable guidelines and that QB rating is NOT an accurate measure of QB play. Lastly you think there are only 12 franchise QBs in the whole league....? I think there are more than that; can you elaborate on who those 12 are. Edit: I move over to QBR which includes running and sacks and Watson moves up ot the good category. Also Fitz moves all the way up to 9 (right ahead of Carr!!!!). Allen does drop to the bad category here which is a cause of his sack numbers. Honestly that was part of the problem I had with him at the end of the year (turning his back to the defense). Again as a pure thrower Allen is average. He makes some big plays with his legs but they end up in his passing stats. Allens bad plays come from his legs and show up in his sacks and fumbles not in rating.

The power analysis tells you how many samples you need to understand if there is a true difference. 58.6 is very close to 60% therefore you need many more samples to know that the two things are different. 72% is >> than 60% and you need fewer samples to tell a difference (also completion % is not a good measure of accuracy imo). I think the best way to think of this (and honestly Allen in generally) is Top 4 (Elite), Second Best 4 (Good), Bottom 4 (Terrible), Second worst 4 (Bad), and everyone else (Average). If Allen is 26th then hes in the second worst 4 and is not making the grade. If he is 23 he really is just average cause you dont have the power to tell the difference between him and number 9. These are guidelines but I think they have really helped me thinking about if something is a concern or if something else is as good as it seems. This guideline has gotten me to Allen is an average QB for the most part (some good and some bad) and I consider that a big improvement from last year which had much more bad.

Not all of these are throwing mechanics but a lot are. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1254429-every-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-worst-habit#slide8

I’m on board with most of what you’re saying but 6-10 is a huge amount. That would probably be >100 more yards per game on the season. I think it’s actually more like 1-2 more plays a game. 1 more FG per game is ~0.25 more points per drive by my calculations. That probably puts us in the average average range

Yup I was inclined to agree with you that if a QB is sub 50% it is mostly on him. I think it’s because the other parts that fail may still be because of him. But I also agree with Hap that it’s impossible to quantify. I’m so conflicted on this topic of how much his supporting cast let him down (particularly OL) because he has so many responsibilities. Seeing growth in deep ball and this area is what I want. I’m just not sure how to quantify growth in this like I could the other areas like intermediate passing.

Fair. I really dont know but its what im most interested at this point. I thought I had seen some posts that he was getting a lot of pre snap responsibilities but maybe I misread. I'm really hopeful thats where he takes a leap cause it feels like thats where Brees, Brady, Manning separated from the rest of the league.