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What am I missing? Over the cap make it seem like they started with 62 mil cause i dont see any of the new contracts on there. Also Spotrac has similar with 61M but none of the newer contracts https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cleveland-browns/ https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/cap// Also thanks for all your updates. They have been great. Edit: Tried playing with the Spotrac tool to build a roster and couldnt add any of their new players so maybe its accurate but not showing current contracts. However, I thought they usually waited and had things like cap automatically calculated based on inputted contracts which again i dont see for the new players. Confusing. Double Edit: Now very sure the 62 mil is wrong. In overthecap i could sign players to customized deals and i mimicked the deals from today with money spread out evenly and got down to 39 mil. Dont think that is accurate but i am very confident if spotrac or overthecap is the source of the browns 62 mil then that is an illusion.

I just dont think its updated. over the cap has them at 62 M but none of the new contracts. Sportrac also has dolphins as most cap space so I think they just dont reflect the new deals.

Its just that the 1st tier is so big.

Gonna need to beat them on the edge with skill players and that isnt really easy either.

See post below. I think there will be players at 54 for us, and if the FO is concerned theyll move up Was responding to post above. I think there will be good players at 54. I think cutting McKenzie is an ok thing that maybe a genius thing.

Feel like I've seen lots of potential starters (let alone contributors at 54). Its a deep class and looks to have contributors all over. Also a 2nd (3rd also) means we could move up with our later picks in that round.

Agree they need two but if we use our 2nd and 3rd for WR and sign Amari then we would have 3 WR more and have +1 for comp. If you dont think about these things as people say then you wont be able to take advantage for a couple offseasons. I dont think its crazy to think were setting up for it this year (agree still seems unlikely.

very true. but if he meets the minimum requirements then he offsets any 1 UFA we sign even if its a huge deal.

nothing else to talk about...

I like this. Could help our comp pick and was gonna struggle to make the team. we dont get anything for cutting him later (guess he could get a trade but probably less helpful than comp formula with shaq out there now).

Interesting, if he gets picked up he could help our comp formula and he was gonna struggle making this roster.

Thanks I see that now. I think I looked at the axis (you mean x right?) of the top one. Either way still dont see how it works. If its all your UFAs count against you then why are the patriots losing the their corner stone QB not lower and if its all the moves then how is LorAx and Shaq moving the needle that much. Didnt realize it was from PFF but yeah that would need to be explained to me.

I believes its wins. So we are 2 wins worse than last year....? Yeah I dont understand. If its all FAs then some of the bigger named FAs should drag down other teams more (Pats and Brady) and no way Shaq is the moving the needle that much.

I would look in the draft. Probably late rounds to stash on the PS. If that doesn’t work back to FA again.

Agree keep them all I was trying to respond to some discussion about bumping Ford inside and how that’s a lot of assets for a backup. I think if they kick him inside they start him. But yeah keep them all.

Yup. I would cut long if choosing between Feliciano and long (I talked about Feliciano cause he was starting cause he’s better than long). @GunnerBillhad a great point about long term security at the center position.

If i put ford at guard then i would let feliciano or long go. probably make feliciano the back up if hell take the money. if ford is better than feliciano at RG then i dont think they would be better served with feliciano at RG. that said i dont know how good ford would be at RG, but i would def take one of the top 4 tackles if they somehow magically fell in the draft.

@BigBillsFan last post helped me form my thoughts. I think the answer to the OP is we dont know because we havent really sunk sizeable assets into the WR position yet. We have sunk a 3rd for KB and then some FA contracts. Of those FA contracts Beasley and Brown, who are pretty reasonable contracts (31st and 37th highest), are by far the highest. So we havent spent draft picks or FA money on WR yet. Reason for hope is that the two FA contracts have been good; reason for despair is that KB was bad. I really dont think we have any idea about the draft. These guys typically have a prototype and I'm not sure we know that yet for WR. If your arguement is that they cant evaluate WR cause they havent really taken a shot yet, then ok, but I would still think you can understand the OL last year was a bigger need.

Side question: if you got good enough play out of someone would you consider lowering Milanos snaps some? Obviously not in high leverage situations.

His 5 year average is number 11 by the huddle report and had the best mock draft they tracked in 2017. Looks like they track 100 ish mocks in 2019. Obviously only professionals. https://www.thehuddlereport.com/mock.scores.shtml

Yeah I think that’s a problem too. I like the parity in the league and comp picks don’t help that.

Im jumping all over Edwards in the 4th. Sheesh its a deep class.

I think your friends are hilarious. You either got a cheap corner or cut as Shaw said (they haven’t pissed anything away). He also got multiple offers and sounds like one may have been higher than our offer. Laugh at what their jets and giants are doing at CB.

Did Beane or Schoen watch any of his games? I don’t think they are taking him if neither saw him.

I think if Joshs biggest flaw next year is his athleticism then we are in a really good spot.