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I encourage you to think about how many snaps they want RB1 and RB2 to play. I expect they want very similar touches for the two and that’s why they force feed moss the first 3/4 of the year. With that perspective we have upgraded RB2 which is effectively half a starter with this perspective.

I love Tre (and this pick) but he is not one of the best tackling corners in the league. Actually, Levi was the best tackler. McD typically has below average tackling teams. Theres only one prospect ranking that mattered it had Elam as BPA. Agree time will tell, but he was definitely BPA on Beane's board as he was the last first round grade left. I think the thing most rankings lack is access to medicals and interviews; as such, they are missing a very important part of the process.

To the underlined I dont believe that (at least not in the first round). His draft record clearly points to picking high ceiling low floor players in the first (see: Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau). Wow I liked the thought process and then you veered off. We got bounced by a speedy WR so we should get a speedy CB to counter was my expectation. I think your wishful thinking got in the way of your logic.

I would also say edge and OT both help push CB and WR our way.

omfg didnt watch to the end of the play. Thanks. why does pro football reference not have it recorded? Maybe im missing it there

I cant find this fumble. Can someone please show me. I dont have any punt returns for Mckenzie this past playoffs yes pro football reference has only 2 fumbles to his name but he misfielded the ball in the miami game week 8 (inside the 20), misfielded the kickoff in the WFT game (inside the 20), and fumbled in the colts game that lead to 7 points (inside the 20). the stats are not capturing all the critical mistakes he made. For the record Stephenson is not the answer either. Miami (@ 1:13:30) WFT (@ 40:42)

Im with you. WR or CB in Round 1 please. The lack of action on CB has been very apparent. Its not like Beane and McD to not have a plan so I trust they are gonna do something they have confidence will net a good player and they can execute. This has me me thinking they like a target they know they can get at the end of round 1 or they feel confident they can move up to get in round 2. Moving up in round 1 just feels as if it could be too pricey to be the plan.

Im also cooling on edmunds for the money reason. the improving each game is for 2020 i believe. Last year Klein only replaced edmunds in the colts game and the Jets # 1 game. Also agree on CB is the primary need. To the OP i hesitate to trade up as it will cost too many top 100 picks which I think are very important to our continued success.

Sorry need to fight silly Edmunds narratives. It is categorically untrue that Klein filled in well for Edmunds. I have contended that the data suggests we have better run defense with Edmunds in the line up. Please prove either the defense or run defense did better with Klein in over Edmunds.

Opportunity cost would be my concern with drafting LB so high. If we do then I think Edmunds is definitely gone. If youre drafting a back up LB on day 2 then you are missing out on developmental starters that will play at WR and iOL.

They didn’t. The OP said the last two years. The game I think you’re referring to was against the pats in 2019. I remember Xavien Howard got him once on a really nice play (this year 1st game I think). JC Jackson last year in the first game. Can’t remember the last one

I agree we have too many picks but it’s gonna take premium picks to get higher in the first round and I don’t want to lost them. Move up in the 3rd or 4th. Sure spend those later picks. But moving up in the first is gonna cost more than I want to give up

We had shady that year so was gonna call it a tie if not in our favor. However, looking back that 2017 defense was not as good as last years pats D

Look at the bills 2017 roster to see. Unless you think Tyrod taylor is that much better than cam. Cause I think O line and WR last year for the pats were better. I would have to check how similar the defenses were but I think McDermott could have gotten quite a lot done.

I agree mid season is a bit exaggerated, but I wouldnt be surprised if he started on the PUP. Thats 6 games right there. He may be ahead of schedule but that means to me that hes trending towards a nine month recovery (9-12 months typicall). That means hes available in Sept. I would rather be cautious and put him on the PUP to start the season as end of the season is more important. Appreciate that thank you. I would still say 9.7 is very high. Strength is not in the prototype for Bills at the position so not worried about that (particularly with his arm length). Looking at some of the McD/Beane picks at CB agility doesnt seem to particularly critical. Tre, Josh Norman, James Bradberry, and Daryl Worley are all okay or poor at agility. Again really appreciate you showing me the other scores!

Havent heard woolen mentioned in this thread yet. Just a couple notes. I think he is the best athlete at the position this year (RAS has him best ever, though no agility scoring). He has only played the position for 2 years. Marino says hes very hungry when hes talked to him at combine and on Draft dudes. So hes a player with traits, went to senior bowl, new to position so tons of upside, fits the prototype at the position for Bills, and wants to be coached up (something we say McD is good at). Its a "reach" but only cause he doesnt quite know how to play the position yet. If you have confidence he can learn I think he could have a first round grade. Much of this sounds like Rousseau and I think theres a lot of the signs to say we would be interested at 25.

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Yes I trust the coaching staff to get the best players on the field for the playoffs. I think the end of the season demonstrates it perfectly. They have admitted they were limiting reps for Beasley and Diggs. They fiddled with the line (some of it injuries) during the season almost every year. I think they will continue to fiddle for the first 3 quarters of the season so they can find the best players for the playoff push. That will mean we play worse at the start of the season and have some head scratchers. I agree I don't quite see Stevenson breaking out.

Pretty sure it was sarcasm

Expanding a bit hes picked it apart in 3 of the last 4 with the 4th being the wind game. Now I understand why Daryl Johnson was traded.

It’s the secret sauce to the picks don’t matter. Early picks don’t matter if you can nail the middle of the draft.

Thanks for explaining the rule of 51. Let’s do the math with links below. Pick 25 has a cap hit of 2.6 million and that bumps the 700k contract of tim Harris. Total 1.9 million pick 57 has a cap hit of 1.17 million and that bumps the 825k contract of nick mccloud. Total 2.25 million pick 89 has a cap hit of 960k and that bumps mike loves 830k contract. Total 2.38 million pick 130 has a cap hit of 900k and that bumps tanner gentry’s 830k contract. Total 2.45 million. the remaining picks do not count against the 51 as you mention. so more than 2 million but not much more. This is why you don’t really hear there being much problem in signing draft classes because of cap space. Bills contracts https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ cap hits for draft picks https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/draft/ @ganesh @klos63

2 mill should be fine for the rooks. Though as you may have been trying to say it might not be enough considering the unknown contracts

I was actually very high on him. One of the few threads I’ve started on here was post draft about him being a potential steal.

You’re saying with your last sentence that you don’t see Milano making plays around him? Mentioned on cover 1 was that edmunds is a good compliment to Milano. Edmunds can clean up plays from Milano aggressiveness.