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The fans are treating it the same way with the us versus them. I mean even if Herman told people that Smith abused his wife, who the !@#$ cares. That still means Smith is the POS. I would actually say the Baylor thing was probably just as bad as Penn State. The players there literally beat up a teammate who was going to testify for a victim.

Did he or did he not miss the blitz both times? When you emphasized untouched you were basically saying not his fault. He used a hard count earlier to try and figure the defense out, which impressed me a lot. It's ok to admit that he isn't perfect. I'm sure he still dreams about you like you do him.

You sound just like Penn State guys defending that organization. The most damning thing about that whole staff was that other staff members came to her and asked her to drop the charges. That's when you know football is far too important to them. I'm not really sure how you can just gloss over the texts like they're nothing, but I'm pretty sure if this was another team you wouldn't. If Meyer thought that he was innocent or that he handled it correctly then why did he lie about knowing? Now for Snook, the Ohio State homer who already amended his story and Herman's angle, do you really think he is going to give some neutral fair and unbiased reporting? The whole recruit money lending timeline didn't make sense in the first place. How many big programs need to go down before people realize that they don't play by the same rules?

I think the line tried that last year.

This is all I'm saying, but he can't do anything wrong apparently. A few poor placed passes and blown reads is what I expect at this stage from any rookie QB. I'm actually glad his start is against the Bengals and not Cleveland. The Browns DEs are disgustingly good and he won't get that again until probably the Chargers.

I mean he already killed a play, so I assume he has other options. Is it so hard to believe that he just hasn't figured out how to read that yet? It's not like he is used to playing against pro quality defenses or anything.

Shifting the block or an audible is accounting for him, slinging a flat pass as fast as you can with poor accuracy is not. I'm sure he will figure it out with more time, but picking up the blitz with this line is going to be essential.

Outside of picks do we even have anything that anyone would want? We can always dream though.

That means he blew the read twice. They pointed out during the game that it's the QBs responsibility to see that defender and account for him. Growing pains. I hope we don't make too many excuses though, because it's still his fault.

I initially started out with how bad the DT play is and that's where most of our yards are given up, but then I just went full rant. I would love Mack, I just think that our line will still suck until they can prevent teams from running it up the gut. Do the even have the money for that type of investment? The Bills never seem to find a good balance of stopping the run and the pass. I'm sure other teams have this problem, but they were just one of the worst last year.

Two things, Ragland isn't bad and the Oxford comma is always the right choice. That list of questionable decisions could be much longer if you throw in old Jets players.

Have you even seen Vlad Ducasse??

I said seriously address, not throw poorly rated players at it. Harrison isn't proven and most likely will be a rotational early down DT. Murphy has had one good season and a PED suspension with injuries. Edmunds is a huge specimen with a high ceiling, but he is better suited for OLB at this stage. If that's how they are going to "address" holes, then this team is doomed. Harrison might turn out to be a very good DT that replaces Kyle and I think Edmunds will be a stud for years, but that doesn't do anything this year. The Dline isn't any better than last year and the LBs are worse. You clearly aren't following the Bills very closely. Still waiting on those upgrades. The LBs are older and just as slow, the Dline still can't stop the run, and the Stud secondary is still the same studs with no real depth. I agree though that the OL is is worse shape and probably bottom 5 in the league. If they can figure out how to stop the run, the defense might be very good. Maybe holding out doesn't fit the "process"? I'm still trying to figure out the parameters with the addition of the PED suspension players.

The problem with Hughes is that he is a liability in the run. He loses contain all the time to try and get to the QB, or he takes a dumb penalty after a great play. He is a great piece when mixed with another dominant end, but not by himself. We have such a good secondary going to waste and it's hard to fathom why they didn't seriously address the DT and DE. This is where a great pro personnel guy like Whaley shines. I'm not impressed at all by Beane's moves and he probably needs some help. If Benjamin stays healthy it will be his first positive for me. I'm not sold on the McDermott defense either and its going to need new linebackers to be effective. I would love Mack btw, but I don't think it would solve anything.

You see Landry off his feet with a shoulder to the helmet at 11 seconds. That view is by far the most damning. I'm not sure if cle23 has an excuse for that one as well.

We've been hurt before.

I was wondering if this was a Troll thread. I was going to ask if that was ever as in every team or just the Bills.

Have you ever felt a lingering despair about games the Bills should've lost? Over the last couple years I'm sure a lot of fans see the Bills on the schedule and pencil it in as a win. Florida is just not a Pro State. Baseball and Football do poorly down there even when the teams do well.

Long completions to who? Our deep threats have a history of underwhelming performance. Lets hope they develop along with his ability to read defenses. This line is horrible and it's probably going to kill the run game, which won't help. I don't argue that he has the higher ceiling, but I'm worried about the rest of the team around him.

That's going to be an issue. WRs and TEs are going to have to fight for it. I'm not sure there are many options for the offense this year.

We had multiple blowouts, poor clock management, and the penalty issues are still there. I'm not sure you can just jump straight to well coached. It wasn't the first time they finished 9-7, but it was the weakest year for the AFC. They grabbed two offensive linemen and they were both rated as the worst or bottom tier for their position. Dawkins was the one guy I was sure of and he got pushed around like a little boy last game. The DT they paid to stop the run has graded out poorly against the run since his rookie season and hasn't looked impressive at all. It's not a great situation for a very young basically OLB trying to learn to play MLB in the NFL. There is no depth behind what little talent we have, so it's going to be a rough year. They should hire a therapist just for Incognito and kick the tires on him again. At least Dawkins Incognito and Groy would give Shady one side to run to.

Peterman excels at quick short timing routes and most of the WRs are slot guys. It might just work for a little while.

It should end here, but it won't lol.

Edge rusher doesn't do us much good when teams can just repeatedly run right and get big yardage. That game, preseason or not, looks too much like the other post Dareus games. I miss the Schwartz defense.

Not for nothing, but they did take out their starting DEs before Allen came in. He did look good though. Rosen is just more polished. Damn, what happened to NOs line? The Cardinals are like the worst rated and they just handled them easy. He did complete a strike the first game with a guy holding his legs. His line in college was one of the worst and he still had top tier stats, so I'm not sure this is going to hold true. Darnold to me looks like he will struggle in that situation.