D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

I'm highly in favor of moving up. Having said that I wish I could share the optimism. I don't right now because I think there are too many moving parts at the top and I'm not seeing it add up in the Bills favor. I think #12 is a big problem for the Bills to overcome because people don't want to trade down that far.

If you want to remain incompetent and irrelevant as a poster to use your phrase keep saying that Rosen sucks.

I've yet to see anyone say that there are sure HOFers in the draft at QB. I have seen many elite QBs taken at the top of the draft and a higher success rate at finding an elite QB as discussed ad nauseum on this site. I am seeing a lot of hyperbole, BS and complete risk aversion by some. Reminder : "The Settle Strategy" has no guarantees either and a far lower success rate.

Nobody is a slam dunk. But, don't forget how many of his teammates have come forward in support of him.

Really? How so? Or is it he doesn't like Trump and you're just using this excuse?

You really don't want to hear what almost all of the scouts say do you? And that is that Rudolph is not an elite QB. You dodged our earlier discussion trying to use your opinion as evidence. Now you're trying to tell us that the top guys as rated by the scouts weren't elite. I'm sorry but this can't be taken seriously. Just take your Loss and drop the argument.

Did he? I must have missed that.

You're right it is a great story! Unless you are an NFL scout and are correct and they're all wrong. Maybe you're Chris Trapasso. There is no argument otherwise that Rudolph is so much better talent than our 5th round guy he should go with #12.

In your opinion. 99% of the scouting world disagrees and says he's not a 12th pick in the draft

Weird answer

Me too that's why I asked. Can't wait for the reasoning.

I think your credibility takes an enormous hit with statements like this.

No Juju. There is no factual basis other than he passed for more yards in college...which is not a reason.

Someone who supports drafting Rudolph at 12, please tell me why he is a better player than our current 5th rounder AJ McCarron?

For those on this thread who have been worrying about the second round pick status and the Bills screwing up- try and put humanity above your petty nonsense for once. Also, keep in mind that many saw him as about a clean a prospect as there is. But hey go ahead and overreact because that's what you do.

1. Rosen 2. Darnold 3. Mayfield 4. Allen 5. Rudolph 6. Jackson

Mason Rudolph upside= AJ McCarron upside but one was a 5th round pick. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mason-rudolph?id=2559942 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/aj-mccarron?id=2543497 Plus AJ has NFL experience now, MR belongs no where near #12. We have that kind of upside right now!

I've been away on my annual golfing vacation to Alabama and the RTJ Trail (haven't posted recently). So Alabama gets me thinking about AJ McCarron and people on these threads shilling for Mason Rudolph at #12 I see we are in agreement as is usually the case. Below are where each stood after the combine -dead even! I would also add small caveat that AJ McCarron has experience in the NFL which puts him ahead. IMO we already have our Mason Rudolph potential wise.....don't draft him with number 12...AJ was a 5th for a little perspective. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mason-rudolph?id=2559942 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/aj-mccarron?id=2543497

Good. He's a crappy QB.

We're you there?

I look forward to your reports and follow them religiously. Keep up the good work.

These two are above the rest in McBeane world imo. Accurate passers, size, can make all the throws, stand in the pocket. Rosen better thrower, Darnold is a little cleaner character supposedly, moves better. I think they love those 2.

You're your own biggest fan!

I guess it was more than the scheme that got Star here!

Now that is what a QB is supposed to look like! Git r Done Beaner You sound like a baby boomer