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Or all 4 could be great or bust!

My current 2 most likely scenarios: #1 Cle Darnold, Trade(Buff) Rosen, NYJ Allen, Cle Barkley, Den Chubb #2 Cle Allen, NYG Darnold, NYJ Rosen, Cle Barkley, Den Chubb In both scenarios, Mayfield goes somewhere between 6-10 in a trade up. Mayfield is ahead of Allen by my ranking , but goes lower. JMO

I extend to the conversation; the Bills acquire pick 2 and draft Josh Rosen ahead of Josh Allen.

Sony Michel..RB Georgia This guy will be the Alvin Kamara of 2018. He can do it all. Shady desperately needs support and will be more effective himself with another threat.

I will say that having different approaches to winning is good for the game. In boxing its the puncher vs the technician. It makes for the best action. I do feel like there was a period a few years ago where the league was very much of an antiseptic product. In the last few years beginning with Seattle teams have become more creative. Perhaps some newer ideas have filtered in.

I think we are pretty much in agreement. All of what you say is very fair. Allen is the wildcard and depending on whether I've just read Bandit of Gunner I go back and forth!

Another guy who remembers the Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, OJ Simpson era! I think rules are so blatantly slanted toward passing it is very unlikely in the near future. No motivation for the league to change the rules away from passing either. I will say, often have wondered if someone won't take advantage of the smaller, speedier D fronts people are building more and more. Try to beat it with size, strength, power and different packages. Some of it is done now, just not so much.

We will have to suck it up the next weeks and have no answer until we're on the clock at 2 hopefully What is you position on the QBs?

I will likely be a tantalizing 3 weeks because I think Browns aren't going to announce their pick declaration before the draft.

No I just don't want Allen ahead of Rosen, Darnold and perhaps Mayfield. If they moved up to say 6-12 and took Allen I would be fine with it.

I think they want McGlinchey.

Phew! Thanks for clearing that up.

You don't think Buffalo gets to 2 and takes Rosen and if they do instead they take Allen?

Anyone else think Jerry and/or Shaq better be ready to change addresses?

Didn't know they had 81M, but I do know they have some huge paydays coming up.

Just not my style. I'm from the Herb Brooks school of we're trying to get the best TEAM not the best players. They have an aging and mediocre Oline is an example of where I'd focus. I also don't think being better than the Chargers get's the job done.

Yeah I know. Not my style to operate the way he is. 1/32 chance is about 3% chance to win SB. Assume they have better talent than anyone else so make it 10%, that still leaves a lot of room for failure. Team could be in a fix when the new stadium opens. I also don't think Goff is as great as some.

I think Allen will go in the first, I just believe teams are using him at the top to divert intentions. You are correct about Rosen.

Seems like he's trying to build a dream team based on names. They'd better win the Super Bowl this year because they're mortgaging the future.

Not a chance, they do all that to get a huge project, one who is likely the number 4 QB prospect in the draft. Nope

You got me you son of a gun!

Excellent point! Wrong! How does Aaron Rodgers survive in Green Bay?

I think they want an OT and perhaps McGlinchey from Notre Dame is the target.

https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alabama-nick-saban-responds-ucla-qb-josh-rosen Remember one thing, these guys have a much different public persona. Behind the scenes they don't encourage same things they preach. The stakes have never been higher.

This is typical of D1 coaches more now than ever. As a former D1 hockey player at an IVY league school 30-35 years ago, and having my son take the same path in the last few years, let me shed a little perspective on it. When I played, we had practice at 5:00 and it ended at 6:30-6:45. You headed over to the rink about 4:15- a short walk. Shower and dinner after practice back home no later than 7:45. Total time per day 3.5 hours. Occasional community service commitments on weekend. My son's experience was like a job and is viewed like that by the players and coach. Between meetings with coaches, lifting , special instruction ,watching film, practice, time with the trainer and doing many community type events, he had way more time invested. Hell after the games they were required to ride exercise bikes while family members waited for them. He easily averaged 6 hours a day on his sport. During this 6 hours, people who are not playing sports have a huge time advantage. Summers are different too. My sons coach does NOT permit players to do summer internships! He wants them to be in town and working out. On more than couple occasions the coach screamed at the team ," I thought I was getting hockey players and instead I got students!" This is no kidding and at an IVY league institution. People have no idea how different it is. People who think it is no different now, have forgotten how big a business college sports have become. Careers, big contracts, egos, getting a better job, high stakes all play into it more than ever. And, Nick Saban is one of the worst I'm sure. Josh Rosen 1000% correct. Hell when i played we had some engineers on the team (I was one), Now-none..nadda..it doesn't work period end of it.