D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alabama-nick-saban-responds-ucla-qb-josh-rosen Remember one thing, these guys have a much different public persona. Behind the scenes they don't encourage same things they preach. The stakes have never been higher.

This is typical of D1 coaches more now than ever. As a former D1 hockey player at an IVY league school 30-35 years ago, and having my son take the same path in the last few years, let me shed a little perspective on it. When I played, we had practice at 5:00 and it ended at 6:30-6:45. You headed over to the rink about 4:15- a short walk. Shower and dinner after practice back home no later than 7:45. Total time per day 3.5 hours. Occasional community service commitments on weekend. My son's experience was like a job and is viewed like that by the players and coach. Between meetings with coaches, lifting , special instruction ,watching film, practice, time with the trainer and doing many community type events, he had way more time invested. Hell after the games they were required to ride exercise bikes while family members waited for them. He easily averaged 6 hours a day on his sport. During this 6 hours, people who are not playing sports have a huge time advantage. Summers are different too. My sons coach does NOT permit players to do summer internships! He wants them to be in town and working out. On more than couple occasions the coach screamed at the team ," I thought I was getting hockey players and instead I got students!" This is no kidding and at an IVY league institution. People have no idea how different it is. People who think it is no different now, have forgotten how big a business college sports have become. Careers, big contracts, egos, getting a better job, high stakes all play into it more than ever. And, Nick Saban is one of the worst I'm sure. Josh Rosen 1000% correct. Hell when i played we had some engineers on the team (I was one), Now-none..nadda..it doesn't work period end of it.

My thinking exactly, and I don't think you wait unitl free agency is over, and all the QBs are gone save one (AJ), pay him 5 M/yr, because you're interested in a project draft pick (Allen). The Browns are another story, they may feel like TT can give them a 1-2 years.

I've thought all along the Browns want both a QB for the future and Barkley. Maybe more than a year LOL

That tells us all we need to know about the Browns. I'm not convinced even with Dorsey that this is going to be a success.

What have I missed? Who says this?

I hear you. You sound like you cheer for the underdog and that's fine. My point is all the hard work in the world isn't going to turn EJ Manuel into Cam Newton. I don't think it is an either or though. You can be talented and work hard as well. These dudes all work hard or they wouldn't be where they are.

If talent is equal or close this may make a difference. However, you can have the hardest working, most motivated, best person in the world and if they don't have the talent....they won't play.

I've been saying for awhile this stuff can only help him drop so the Bills have a shot

But isn't that the way of the world these days! LOL

I can't imagine ever hiring this guy again!

Every time Jim Mora Jr. opens his mouth he removes all doubt! He is an a-hole of the first order

I know you're a friend of Don Banks so thought maybe you had some insight. Hope to hell we can grab Rosen.

Prediction or inside knowledge

You seem to have that covered yourself! smh

If only he had the onions to take the bet..but he won't

I could see him going before Jackson. Not Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield.

Don't give up on it, someone will take the bait.

We still have an opportunity to go up in the draft and get a top guy. I don't get people wanting to give up on that approach. This draft will be a huge disappointment if we don't come out of it with one of the top guys. We are setup with all these picks to make that happen. I suspect McBeane hasn't given up on getting Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield. The notion of settling for a guy is a mistake IMO.

You SOB I knew this was coming and still fell for it!

Has nothing to with Eli and this regime. If Rosen was their guy we'd know it by know.

Care to elaborate why you never want to hear about the best QB in the draft again?

Going by what our experts say: For the Bills I'm going 1. Rosen 2. Darnold 3. Mayfield No change for me in the top half of round 1, that is how I've been Jackson and Rudolph are fit questions in late first or second But where does Allen go? before these guys or after? Does he go amongst the Big 3? It will be interesting to say the least

........So GB and Bandit Rosen...both say Top 5 Darnold .....Bandit top 5 potentia,l GB mid first Mayfield...Band top 10, GB mid-late first Allen...Band top 10, GB 3rd.....Hmmm Rudolph...Band 2nd rd, GB late first,second Jackson...Band late first,GB Mid second It looks like reasonably good consensus other than Allen who is the wildcard