GunnerBill

Agree with this. Palmer is a way better option than Cooks or Hollins at this stage. As I said I'd have been in on Brown, but I acknowledge he is riskier and the Bills were looking for a legit floor because they have nothing else at the spot. They got themselves here when they wouldn't go up a few extra picks for Jordan Addison or Brian Thomas or when they passed on the likes of Christian Watson for Kaiir Elam (I know Watson has been a walking injury but who knows if that happens here, he has been productive when on the field).

That is a very good point......

Yea, agreed, it is. I actually would have been partial to a flier on Dyami. I loved him coming out and I do think opportunity was part of the problem. Washington never really seemed to trust him. No doubt they had their reasons for that, but he really did pop at the end of last year. Maybe a fluke? Definitely possible. But if it wasn't and the light has just finally gone on he is better than any of the other FA WRs. I'm fine with Palmer. It is what it is. The market is horrible and he is at least a legit outside receiver in the NFL even if he kinda feels like the baseline of what the Bills need is rather than anything more.

I am not sure corner is that deep personally. I think you have Hunter, Barron and Johnson in the first tier (plus Revel on the fringe but with major medical red flags). Then you have Amos, Hariston, Morrison (major injury red flags), Thomas in the second tier, plus Porter who is kinda of tier 2 and a half. After those 9 guys there are not a ton of guys I'd feel confident in saying would come in and beat out a vet like Dane Jackson who knows the system as rookies. Are there some guys who can and will improve past Dane with some development and time on task? Sure. But if the Bills best available at a premium position in round 1 isn't a corner then IMO they should try and move up in round two to get one of those guys (or find another still unsigned vet on the market). Otherwise more likely than not Dane Jackson will start the season opposite Christian Benford.

It is sort of the market though. Gabe got $24m guaranteed from the Jags last year and they are similar tier of player IMO. They are guys that are low end #2s outside who you'd ideally love to have as your 3rd outside receiver in the rotation. As to why the Bills are having to fish in that market for a semi-proven outside receiver..... the answer lies in their under investment in the position at draft time between Diggs trade and Keon selection and then question marks about whether Keon is really a true outside, vertical threat guy.

Fair enough. I don't necessarily think you are wrong on the athleticism bit. But I do think it is a significant problem for him creating separation on boundary routes and it limits his ceiling IMO. Using the basketball skills in the redzone - absolutely - but elsewhere that same technique is hurting him.

My biggest problem with them.... well let me be more specific, with Erik, is that he is incredibly thin skinned to legitimate disagreement. It's like their narrative is the only narrative.

Ahhhhh now Erik's video last week defending Groot's dreadful performance in the AFCCG makes a lot more sense...... Shills gotta shill.

My view on pick #30 is they should take the guy they think has the best chance to be a high end difference maker at a premium position - Edge, WR, CB - within 2 years. I think elite talent is a bigger need on this team than any single position.

Yea I thought watching the Franklin tape last year that Tez was gonna be at least an early day 2 guy. He popped every time you watched the film. He was the best receiver on that team. But his 2024 tape was less impressive and his run at the combine was really disappointing. Sometimes you think smaller guys are running faster than they are because of the perpetual motion and low centre of gravity. He was in my top 10 at one point but he is I think WR15 for me now.

Yuck. The idea of rubbing anyone's feet is frankly, disgusting.

I promise you nothing would make me vomit quicker.

It is partly his footwork - especially off the line - that is right. But it is largely that he plays to contact. He wants to feel the DB and play off that. It means he gives up leverage constantly, closes his own spaces and ends up reactive instead of proactive in his routes. I am sure it is his basketball background coming out but that is a concern because it means it is probably deeply ingrained in him. There is a lot of unlearning for him to do. He has to completely change the way he runs downfield routes if he ever wants to separate. It doesn't happen when he is in the slot and gets a free release. In those situations he dictates where he is going and makes defenders react to him. But if he is lined up against a DB outside he looks for that DB and plays off the contact. Unless he fixes it his ceiling is limited.

Oh I think they will contend. I just think this is the year they lose a close one somewhere in the post season.

Before last draft we were tied 32nd.

I don't think KC makes the Superbowl in 2025. I am not saying the Bills will but last time after a bashing in the Superbowl they didn't make it back the next year.

Excellent post. Agree with every word.

Oh he can definitely improve. But he would have to totally re-learn his technique in running downfield routes outside to be what the Bills need. Honestly what I see is 3 years of him giving WR2/3 production and then he leaves in free agency for a Gabe Davis type deal when corrected for inflation on a team with a rookie contract QB.

Josh has only had 3. Rico was before Josh. He had Dabes for 4 seasons, then Dorsey for 1.5 seasons now Brady for 1.5 seasons going into 2025.

They have only hired one rookie OC - Ken Dorsey. Rico, Dabes and Joe B had all been NFL OCs before taking the role here. Don't disagree on the general quality of their skill guys though.

Yea it was the weekend before FA opened. They did Milano, Daryl Williams and Feliciano in a flurry.

I think he will go in the 2nd round. Probably within the first 10 to 15 picks of it.

Yea I also think there is a world where Pittsburgh, the Jets or Vegas jumps back into the end of round 1 for him How very fancy!

Possibly. It is a value of the board thing for me there. Egbuka is almost BPA (depending on Revel's medicals). I did have a bit back of mind as well that at some point AJ Brown is gonna go full Diggs, right? I reckon Howie knows that too and isn't gonna want to get caught where the Bills did with an empty receiver room if he loses him a year before the plan or whatever. It depends on the medicals I think. Feels like the mood music is he will fall into day 2. But it only takes one team to be willing to take the risk.

Oh I agree. I did not like Elam and I do like Hariston. I don't think he is a technically sound as Tre was coming out and I do think he is a bit more of a guesser which typically McDermott doesn't like. But I'd be fine with Hariston. I'd take him over Grant and they were the two I was tossing up there in the mock as to what the Bills would do. I suppose in part it came down a bit as well to I think Grant is more likely to go round 1 than Hariston is. And you are always balancing that a bit when you are mocking too. How do you try and get as close as possible to the right 32 names. In terms of my board currently Grant is #28 and Hariston is #31. So it isn't like there is a huge gap. Egbuka (who you mention above) is #25 and Revel (although with a huge health asterisk is #19. I have a 1st/2nd borderline tape grade on Revel. The other guys there are all upper 2nds. As you mentioned it in your previous post as well convenient place for me to say the more time I have spent on it the more I like this draft class. It is a good class IMO. Except for it is like someone has stolen about 5-10 guys from the top of it. If there were another 5 or 6 high 1st round grades I think this would be one of the strongest drafts I have done. Right now I only have 15 firsts (plus 4 borderlines) but I have 34 seconds. And the depth flows into my 3rd and 4th round grades too. It is a good group just lacking the star power at the very top. Your principle is absolutely spot on. Bad organisations do bad things though. And over the last decade the Giants are a terrible organisation.