GunnerBill

Thanks! I nearly tagged you in my post because I thought if anyone would remember who it was it would be you. Not sure if that is a compliment but feel free to take it as one

It reminded me a bit of a prime Big Ben play. Guys hanging off him, anyone else woulda given it up and he throws back inside and finds a guy.

100%. If anything at times he takes too much on his shoulders and wears it. But his personal accountability is beyond question IMO. Great teammate.

The Bills have had an issue for years with hot routes. Combination of them not built effectively into design and Josh not getting to them quickly enough. Definitely felt like yesterday there had to have been some hot route adjustments to punish the blitzes but they never came for whatever reason.

Yep, he did. Good question on the brace. Didn't look that closely.

I mean it wouldn't be the first time under this regime a player never turned up on the injury report then we found out after the year was working through an issue. There was definitely a case where that happened with wrist ligaments. I forget which player now. They never appeared on the injury report then had surgery after the season and said they had played with it most of the year.

How could they have been screwed it was very clearly a penalty. Andy saying it is embarrassing for the league.... I think it embarrassing for him and Brett Veach who persist with Toney because they gave up an asset for him when it is absolutely abundantly clear he is a knuckle head who costs them football games. He is a less likeable Isaiah McKenzie. It's on them for him still being out there.

I actually think Von probably played his best game yesterday since returning. that isn't a high bar but there were a couple of flashes, which is a couple more than any other game. I think he is toast but I am going to try really hard for the next week to believe there might be some juice left for the run.... because with AJE down we need him.

Spags has always been kryptonite for our pass protection. It was said elsewhere, and it is true, that the Chiefs and Bills know each other about as well as divisional rivals at this point. But I go back to 2020, the empty stadium year, when olines held sway and ours was decent... except it got brutalised twice by the Chiefs (regular and post season). Spags is a master breaking down protection schemes and he seems to eat ours. Multiple OCs and OL coaches throughout that time too. The OL does have to play better to make a run, but for the most part this year it has played better. Not outstanding, but league average. If it can get to that the rest of the way we will be fine.

There is that too, but you still have faster guys out there than you do when you are trying to stop a FG return.

James Cook is legit.

Probably has less of a chance of a successful return though because you have fast guys on the field. If a 62 yard kick falls short you have a lot of big guys trying to prevent a return.

They have always kicked short by design some but when was the last time you actually saw Bass kick it through the endzone? Even when he has had touchbacks in recent weeks they have been the downed just inside variety. There is definitely something beyond strategy going on. And agree on the coverage teams, worst they have been in a long time. They have really missed Taiwan Jones and it blows a hole into the "anyone can be a gunner" narrative.

No Diggs is not done. KC have just always played him well. The drops are concerning to me though. Especially the one at the end which was huge.

I think Martin is done. He was good for us last year coming in right before the season but I honestly think his leg has gone. As for Bass I am pretty sure there is something physical going on. He is not getting the distance he normally does on kick offs and the Bills have been noticeably more conservative in trying long FGs than other years. I am pretty certain that after the season we will find out he has been carrying some sort of injury that has lingered.

Agree. Beat Dallas and at the very worst our destiny will be in our own hands in Miami.

It DEFINITELY has. But nobody breaks down protection schemes better than Spags. In 2020 when our Oline was pretty good, certainly above average league wide, we had two really bad games. Both vs KC. I think if he has the horses he finds a way.

Having played and coached semi pro sport that I was paid for I can say definitively that if you have lost faith in the coaching you don't consciously decide not to try, but your lack of faith shows up in your lack of hustle on the field. It is just human nature.

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No the effort shows they respect him. Even if it had gone against them that would still have been the case. That wasn't a team that has quit on its coach playing tonight.

They should shut him down, fire Staley tonight and play for draft position.

He does. And even had that Toney play worked that was a complete freak. Now don't get me wrong the Bills losing to freak plays is a theme. But you couldn't have legislated for that. He called a good final drive. Blitzed early. Simulated late. And as a result even on the simulated blitz Mahomes was fidgety.

Based on what they are reporting happened in the meeting where Hyde and then Josh stood up in front of the team and told Sean they have his back it could just have that kind of galvinisng effect. Success is failure turned inside out; The silver tint of the clouds of doubt, And you never can tell just how close you are, It may be near when it seems so far; So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit; It's when things seem worst that you must not quit.

The players are still fighting for him. There was a lot wrong today on both sides but the effort was outstanding across the board.

Cos Andy has some class left.