GunnerBill

Elam, yes. Bishop, not yet sold.

That was a fantastic Josh play. Nobody is questioning that he does that. Or that there are almost no other humans in the world that can do it. He makes 5-10 of those plays every week. And yet that still isn't proof that it is entirely Josh. That, and only that, is the point I have disputed constantly through this thread. There is zero dispute that Josh is the best player in the league.

I hope not, because that's the job I could see Joe Brady taking. I'm pulling for Cincy to finish 9-8 and miss out.

I don't see "send me to Seattle." I see "I'm pissed" and when Taylor responds him saying "eff that". Then I do think there might be a "trade me" in there, but I don't see any mention of Seattle.

Leslie didn't get fired. He walked away. I know people doubt that but I promise you it's true.

Yep, as well as going to it arguably a drive too soon the bolded is also true. The soft zone is to force the underneath stuff, if every throw is a first down and they are still marching downfield in 2 and a half minutes then you are not really getting the job done.

I don't think we did do that though in the 2nd quarter. I think there is a baked in assumption amongst our fanbase that every time a team moves the ball against us we must be in soft zone and everytime we get a stop we are blitzing and playing man and it just isn't true. 4th quarter we did go to a lot of softer zones. That IS true. I think they were burned on the long St Brown TD and decided to go more cautious. It was a bit too early to start counting possessions to my eye but there you go.

He sucks in coverage. He is a special teamer who can play in a pinch if a team wants to run it. If they want to throw it watch out. He is in trouble.

While the fundamentals are similar this is not the exact defense Leslie Frazier was running.

Was a great throw. Lewis is the only player I'd criticise slightly. He gets his closing angle slightly wrong and against a player as good as St Brown that's trouble.

They blitzed less yesterday, good! The blitzes were a big part of the problem last week. They did play some man though yesterday still. They mixed that in through the first 2 and a half quarters. They went to exclusively soft zone later - I think too soon, I agree with that, but I also think they were trying to protect the spots where they were hurting, especially safety.

Leslie is by far the best of the 3 defensive coordinators we have had in the McDermott era. I'm 100% with you there. He got ridiculous unfounded hate from many.

They did that in the 4th quarter yesterday, but they didn't do that first half. They did very little of it last week, the issue vs the Rams was too aggressive not too conservative.

They also lost Milano (with Williams already banged up) and Bishop around that time. I thought Babich did a really good job 1st half. 2nd half was a bit less impressive.

It was the Buccs.

They definitely double covered him some and Terrion Arnold (their #1 corner) travelled some too. But there was definitely a concerted effort for the Bills to get to the backs v the Lions immobile linebackers as a matchup in the pass game.

He was unblockable last night. We need Ed in that kind of form when we hit the post season. It's just consistency. He has had a number of good games this year - Miami (1st game), Tennessee, Seattle, Kansas City, last night.... but he has had too many bad games too, where he has been almost invisible. There has been very little in between. That performance variance is too big and it is what is stopping him from maximising his talent. He still has all the tools to be one of the best two or three 3Ts in football.

the still doesn't show it but I've watched it about a dozen times and the contact definitely comes before Taron touches the ball. I get that it is bang, bang but it is a definite flag.

He hadn't touched the ball either. The Lions player makes contact with Johnson first.

Is that Staubach, Manning, Mahomes, Brady, Allen?

No there isn't. There are like 3 or 4 posts saying that. Then a ton of posts saying "entirely Josh" isn't an accurate reflection.

Nobody is failing to notice that.

Yea the line has got better as the year has gone on so that isn't a shock. Particularly Torrence who was dreadful early (he was very clearly not in shape for week 1) but has rounded into form nicely. He isn't an elite guard or anything but we are getting decent play from him. He was a liability some of those first few games.

Another strawman. Because nobody has said that either.

He did. But I don't think he completed the possession. That might have been playcall related but I think he went out again.