Kirby Jackson

The league wants more revenue. Ticket prices are a part of that but only a little part. If the Bills just decided, “we aren’t doing anything else but raising all prices by 25%.” The league wouldn’t be satisfied. The Bills would be able to kick in a larger portion of the shared revenue and their value would increase. However, they would miss the bazillion other revenue opportunities that a new stadium presents. That’s the “long-term” stability that Goodell referenced. It is ALL about revenue maximization. Ticket prices are a little piece and a short-term fix because there is a tipping point in terms of what the market will allow. There is no “ceiling” as to how much money you can generate elsewhere. I 100% agree except for the last piece. It will never be all or nothing. The larger market teams are going to push to split less and less.

You are underestimating their knowledge of the market. The Bills know EXACTLY what the market can handle. They’ve been gathering that data for years. The new stadium will have a LOT more revenue streams. It’s not just PSLs and tickets 10x more expensive. They aren’t stupid. They are however the lowest revenue team in the league. People foolishly say, “we will never be able to support Jerry World.” Of course not!! That’s not the plan!! I never hear anyone saying though “we can never be the Jacksonville Jaguars!!” They are 25th. That’s what the Bills are trying to do. That’s roughly $30M more a year. If you don’t believe that the Bills can squeeze another $3M a game in revenue out of the market I don’t know what to tell you. There are a TON and ways to do that and a price increase is a tiny piece.

This thread has inevitably triggered some. This topic scares people. People worry that the team will move. People worry that they’ll be priced out. People worry that tailgating will disappear. Etc, etc, etc, This situation has been inevitable for years. The league is evolving and the Bills must do the same. We don’t need to fear what’s next. Different doesn’t mean worse. The Pegula’s have built some first-class facilities and I’d expect this to be the same. This isn’t something that we can prevent (even if that’s what some want). Let’s embrace it and enjoy the future!

I could do without the clickbait trash from PFT. I’m calling on all of my fellow TBD members to boycott that trash site!! With that being said this is pretty much the exact same situation that it’s been forever. It’s posturing. A new stadium or a massive renovation is absolutely coming. That has ALWAYS been the case. Everyone is going to try to leverage the other side to pick up as much of the tab as they can. At the end of the day it will be a public/private partnership where each side picks up their piece. My one wish is that this whole thing didn’t play out in the media. When comments like this are made, trash media, like PFT, will create their own narrative for clicks. The uneducated now believe that they are in jeopardy of leaving.

I think in some ways it was “semi-retirement.” It’s similar to what happened to people like Bill Munson and Jerry Foran a decade earlier. Basically, they were stripped of any and all power but still got to collect a check until they didn’t want to work anymore.

That’s the food and drink tab each game. So for the 41 home games looking at about $33k for nonsense. He really just uses it for staff, family and a few business associates.

He opened the season as our starter after getting picked 5 times in a half. The entire country laughed at us as we tried to convince people that he could play.

Brutal

Yeah, the suite prices are absurd!! My client has one here in the arena and he said that his bill is over $800 every game

Are people really not putting Peterman up there?!? He is literally the worst QB in history!!! We kept trotting him out there and acting like he was a viable option. Nothing has brought more shame to this franchise than his performance against the Chargers. That whole situation was an absolute, predictable, train wreck. He is numbers 1-10 on the list.

Much like the Wall of Fame this is so easy!!

Love me some Rachel Bush

FWIW, I’m not a big McDermott fan. I find him to be kind of fake. I think he’s a pretty good football coach though. His teams are prepared and don’t beat themselves. He just hasn’t had a lot of talent. This year we are going to find out though. This team SHOULD compete for a playoff spot.

Nice job GB!! I’ll nitpick a little but nothing major: Zay to black Maurice Alexander to red Jordan Phillips to black DiMarco to red Shaq to black (with the uncertainty always surrounding Murphy he’s the insurance)

There is definitely room to move people around. I tried to do it without too much “resume factoring.” Jon Gruden won a Super Bowl and I don’t think he’s very good. My approach was pretty simple, “if my team could pick any current HC, what’s the order that I would draft them in?” So, while there is some “resume factoring” I really tried to look more at their coaching ability (or at least my perception of it).

I’ll give it a shot: Belichick Payton Reid Pederson Reich Carroll Harbaugh Tomlin McVay Lynn Nagy Arians McDermott Shanahan Zimmer Rivera Kitchens Quinn Garrett Vrabel O’Brien Taylor Kingsbury LaFleur Fangio Marrone Jon Gruden Jay Gruden Gase Flores Patricia Shurmur

I’d agree if OJ wasn’t up there.

This is easy to me (keep in mind I wasn’t alive for Byrd). Bennett was the best of the LBs and the 2nd best defensive player on those Bills teams. There are a bunch of guys up there that he was better than. He was a 2 time AFC DPOY and the guy that elevated the Bills from good to great. Forget about the off the field stuff (OJ is up there), Biscuit is WAY overdue.

My favorite is Ed Oliver because I expect him to be the best. I wouldn’t even be a little surprised to see him in the Pro Bowl this year. Off the radar a little, I like Singletary because I pounded the table for him. It would be nice to be vindicated. l like Beasley too because he’s can rap. We’ve needed some swagger.

This is a leverage play (already). There won’t be a work stoppage. Both sides are going to try to get a bigger piece of the pie. Neither side will let a stoppage happen.

That’s awesome!! Thanks!!!

He’s 6 hours from there he said. I don’t know. There are a bunch of people here that I’d like to watch a game with (and have in some situations). I much prefer to watch with people that really know what’s going on vs. casual fans. My brother was a college QB, coach and really knows the Bills. He’s one of my favorite people to watch with too because he sees some things that I don’t. It gives me a more well-rounded sense for why the game or a play ended like it did.

If we weren’t in the offseason I probably wouldn’t have taken up space here but it’s important to me. I have a friend and DIEHARD Bills fan that is moving to Fairbanks, Alaska as we speak. He knows the team well, travels to games, still has his seasons, hosts on the road and is close with the McCoys. His wife is a doctor in the military and that’s their new spot. Just hoping to find a few people that I can link him up with to watch games. This guy really knows his stuff and is one of my favorite people to watch with (even if we disagree on certain things). If anyone knows Bills fans that way either put it here or shoot me a PM.

They lost me at “could push Milano.” Milano was having a Pro Bowl year in year 2. I like Joseph and think that he could find snaps but it’s not at the expense of Milano assuming he’s healthy.

I go back-and-forth on this. He’s the kind of guy that if he got in no one would blink at. Once he was in he’d be one of the guys that future HOFers pointed to as a reason for their candidacy.