Kirby Jackson

ugh, so not a process guy ?

Greatest whiner is debatable. There have a bunch (including Brady). It’s tough to argue anyone else as the greatest ever though. He’s won 6 Super Bowls and played in 3 others. I hate the guy but he’s clearly in a class by himself.

He wasn’t out of the league for 5 years at the time.

I didn’t see a separate thread on this and felt like circumstances warranted it. I really thought that it was an April Fool’s joke. He hasn’t played since the 2015 season!! Obviously he was a great talent but struggled mightily with addiction. This one is so interesting to me. Smith’s issues are well beyond that of Josh Gordon IMO. Gordon was a danger to himself. Smith was a danger to everyone. I hope that he stays clean and gets his life back on track. I’m just shocked that someone would take a shot on ANYONE this far removed from their last game, let alone someone with Smith’s checkered past.

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They lost Collins, Harmon and Shelton too. The front 7 should be significantly worse than last year. Their defense should still be okay but doubt that they are top 5. Your bold prediction is that Trevor Lawrence will never be the greatest player of all-time? Way to go out on a limb there.

I’d like the 49ers because I think they are really interesting in this draft but you can assign me whoever if they are taken I guess Jacksonville and Carolina would be next. I find them pretty interesting in this draft as well.

Oh I agree for sure, that’s the only reason I think that they picked up the phone though. He’s less than 5% to make the team imo.

Feels like a long shot but could push Foster as the speed guy. I expect the Bills to keep 7 receivers (including Roberts).

Lynn Bowden

I like the Colts, Rams and Cardinals at those numbers. I don’t hate KC at +650 either

Remind me when we get closer and I will send you a link....my site seems to have a lot of options but I’m getting an error message

Different draft odds

Oh, there are a lot of ways to bet the draft. You can do o/u on where specific players will be taken. You can bet the number of trades. You can bet the o/u on picks at a position in a round (ie o/u 4.5 1st round QBs). There are lines everywhere for the draft.

That’s kind of an interesting thought. Marty really ends up being the confident, level-headed mastermind. He doesn’t use emotion to direct his business decisions in anyway. Everything that he does is well thought-out and reasoned. Wendy has that desire to be the best but she can get caught up in her perception. The horse farm is a good example of this.

I almost used Get a Life but didn’t think anyone would know it. I used to love that show!! I even bought the DVDs ???

PFF LOVES Diggs I think. I’m not a PFF guy but think that he’s one of their little childish crushes.

That’s kind of my thought. Jefferson was 5th in pass rush win rate from the interior and Oliver 7th last year. With Oliver coming on I see no reason that he won’t be in the top 5 this year in that stat. He is going to consistently be in the backfield forcing QBs out.

Murphy had 2 sacks in the finale and 2 sacks in the playoff game. Maybe he was getting healthy? I think 8 is reasonable for him if that’s the case. Addison seems to consistently be in that 8-10 range (although he was much better early last year than late). Hughes has always gotten pressure but rarely gotten home but again he had 3 sacks in the playoff game. With the rate at which Jefferson and Oliver win in pass rush situations these other guys are going to get some cleanup sacks. The improved pressure inside is what I’m counting on to hit those numbers. We should be REALLY good at pressuring the QB from the interior.

That’s a tough question but I’d tend to agree. At the same time Josh is a total wild card. He could be anywhere from top 5 to 30 this year. I tend to think that he will give them average to above average QB play this year. Somewhere in that 12-15 range. That’s probably enough for this roster to be considered top 5. There aren’t many holes. In terms of edge I agree that there needs more explosiveness. I’m fine taking a chance on a guy as soon as 54. I just think that we will be okay short-term with the guys we have. I’d expect the Addison-Hughes-Murphy group to combine for about 25 sacks. I think that when you add in the DTs, LBs, DBs and everyone else you’re probably looking at another 22. That’s slightly ahead of where they were a year ago (44) when they were 12th in the league. I think that they can be a borderline top 10 team in terms of sacks and even a little better in terms of pressure. They just have a lot of quality bodies across the defense to throw at it. What they lack in an elite guy (outside of Oliver) they will make up for with good depth.

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But it won’t be worse, with the additions of Addison and Jefferson, a healthy Murphy and a developing Oliver it should improve. Shaq and Phillips were effective but feel like they’ve been adequately replaced in the short-term. I expect an improved pass rush this year but long-term there’s work to be done. That was honestly a big reason that I advocated keeping Shaq. An injury to Addison though and you are starting the same guys that you did last year.

I know that you think edge is the weakest spot. We disagree slightly there. I think that the Bills are fine at edge for 2020. There are A LOT of questions beyond this year. Over the next couple of years I think we will see an entirely new crew there. I expect to see a new body this year but the edge concern is more beyond 2020 than in 2020.

I am a “big play advocate.” If the Bills made 4 more a year (as an example) that’s an extra 28 points on the season. Those 4 big plays would take the Bills from 23rd in scoring to 18th. That’s one explosive play every 4 games. I think Diggs instantly contributes to this. There will be a slant or 2 that he catches at own 40 and explodes through the secondary to go the distance. We have been lacking that for sure. 5 of the Bills 6 losses last year were by a TD or less. If 1/2 of those big plays were made in those 6 games we could have been 12-4 instead of 10-6. Those 4 big plays are probably worth an additional win to 2 wins a year. That could be the difference in playoffs or not, division or not, bye or not, etc...

There are some nice players in there but that’s not how the draft works. Top players at premium positions get drafted first. A top tier S or TE does not get drafted before a top tier CB or T (and Ramczyk is good not great IMO). I’d have Tre in the tier with Kittle, Adams, and Watt as players. Watt and Tre play premium positions. Godwin is really good but does kind of feel out of place at 4. Those other guys are top 5 players in the league at their position. I don’t think that he is that. He’s in a great system and is really good. Ramczyk is a little overrated to me. He gets a lot of credit. He’s a nice tackle but IMO he’s not a top 5 guy either. If we are redrafting I think that the top 10 looks like this: - Mahomes - Watson - Garrett - Tre - Watt - McCaffrey - Humphrey - Kittle - Adams - Ramczyk - Godwin