Kirby Jackson

60:1 to be the MVP...he has games where he goes off. He’s PHENOMENAL value at that That’s the line I heard. It’s probably either Westgate or someone like that. You can probably just google it and see who set the line. The lines are pretty universal from the major players. I like that bet

Roughly 26 million people are expected to bet the Super Bowl. They are expected to bet $6.8B. With being said what are you guys betting? I’m thinking: - SF first half - KC 2nd half - SF over rushing total - KC over passing total - National Anthem under 2:04 - A handful of secondary skill players (ie Watkins, Coleman, Samuel, Damian Williams, etc) for MVP

I feel like Tyrod and Fitz took more heat than the other guys mentioned. It’s weird because they were way better than those guys. Now maybe it’s because they were low end starters but that’s still better than mid level to low level backups.

I can go either way on this debate. I tend to lean TT but see both sides. It was always odd to me that the were so hated when they were here. They were the only functioning QBs we ran out in a 15 year period. If you want to hate on guys, hate on Losman, Edwards, EJ, Peterman, Brohm, Tuel, et al.

“Oh my God, that’s John Wawrow’s music!!!”

He has a better WR room than Brady. Additionally, he has a vastly superior running game that teams need to respect. This feels like cherry picking stats to put through a narrative that they were vastly different players. They weren’t. They were elite game managers and borderline top 10 QBs. Neither was elite this past year and not really that close.

Brady and Rodgers? Brady: 60.8%, 4,057 yards, 24 TDs, 8 INTs, 88 rating, 52.5 QBR Rodgers: 62%, 4,002 yards, 26 TDs, 4 INTs, 95.4 rating, 53.5 QBR You've made it clear that you love Rodgers but those numbers aren’t all that different. Brees is the outlier of that group (16 game pace): Brees: 74.3%, 4,333 yards, 39 TDs, 6 INTs, 116.3 rating, 74.2 QBR

I’m honor of Greg Olsen (aka G-Reg) here’s the NSFW song performed by the 7th Floor Crew:

Bring in Olsen and cut Kroft...that feels like an easy one I’d probably chase Hooper or Henry first though (depending on the cost).

That was the perfect storm for them. The Warriors coming off of this historic run and opening the new arena in SF.

I know. I was just kidding

Um, Augie, um, I was with you at a game at that stadium. Have you seen a doctor lately?

Oh, 100% in agreement with you on that. Rodgers and Brady look like middle of the pack QBs. Maybe, borderline top 10ish guys. They are high end game managers at this point. That’s not meant to be an insult. They just don’t carry their respective teams to victory like they used to. Those guys were 2 of the best 3 QBs in the league for a decade and a half. Brees was the 3rd guy in that group. Brees is still in the elite tier. Rodgers and Brady were not this year.

I often read this stuff and shake my head at the fear they try to create. The NFL can’t force the Pegulas to do anything. They can collectively bargain a less favorable revenue sharing for lower income teams. If that happens it will make it harder for the Bills to compete and may force their hand. The NFL though cannot force a team to move, build a stadium or anything of the sort. When they voted them in as owners they gave them the power to run the Buffalo Bills.

Rodgers season was almost identical to Brady’s.

I don’t know, Brees has a MASSIVE ego as well. All great QBs do. With that being said Brees is a much better player at this point than Brady. If he played all 16 games this year he was on pace for: 74.3% completion, 4,333 yards, 39 TD passes, 6 INTs. Brady over 16 games in 2019: 60.8% completion, 4,057 yards, 24 TD passes, 8 INTs

Fowler and I didn’t get off on the right foot. That’s certainly a personal thing. The others are more because I think were mistakes for the Bills. I shouldn’t necessarily hold it against them but I do. What I want is pretty simple, play hard, don’t be completely inept and be a good dude. With that low bar, I really like the overwhelming majority of the Bills players.

Yeah, he had some issues for sure. He was the most cooperative and genuine dude on the team IMO. It was highs and lows but from being around there he was probably my favorite. They had some good guys and then some idiots. That’s probably true of every team though.

I always believed that he wouldn’t leave without every record locked up. He has most now but Brady can take a few. At this point Brees is the much better player too. I don’t know though because the people that follow the Saints like I do the Bills think it’s possible if not likely.

FWIW, the sense that Brees is retiring has really caught traction over the last week or so here. I don’t buy it but buy it more than I did a month ago. I’m not sure where it came from but those that follow the Saints closely think it’s possible.

Trent Edwards He had a chance to be a good game manager and was scared to death. I know that he got hit but couldn’t stand the fear that he played with. Honorable mention to Drew Bledsoe (most overrated player in Bills History), Chris Hogan, Nathan Peterman (worst player in Bills history), Melvin Fowler (weird but he was an a hole), and Derrick Dockery (worst contract in Bills History). These may not be exact because I can’t think of everyone but it is a bunch of guys I didn’t care for as Bills. FWIW, I found Marshawn to be the most engaging player in the organization. He was fan-friendly and not because he was forced to. He is legitimately a really bright guy, that enjoyed Buffalo, and wanted to embrace the community. In my time around there he was almost certainly my favorite player (Melvin Fowler my least in that era).

The guy was an extremely young player playing for Rex Ryan!! Are we at all surprised that it wasn’t a good situation?!? You heard numerous vets say the exact same thing. Side note, my buddy that played for Saban and BB finished his career with Rob Ryan as his coordinator. He said it was the most unorganized, unprofessional environment that he ever experienced. It was a disaster. He laughs at it.

Gross I feel like a total hypocrite because I probably consume about 95% of their content, but can’t stand Portnoy.

If we are sticking in the NFC South how about: - Mike Evans for pick 22 & Levi Wallace - Curtis Samuel for a 4th or 5th - Ty Sambrailo for a 6th I would make any of these deals in a second.