Kirby Jackson

This is where we disagree which is why I went to the exclusions. There may be revelations that only impact a player and if so he will be allowed out.

As an example Cristiano Ronaldo has the most Instagram followers in the world and by a very significant margin (Ariana Grande is 2). These guys are also starting podcasts and pushing products. It’s easy money. Now, should they maybe mute the comments? I think at times it would be best but I get why they don’t.

Contracts no, marketing dollars, without question

That’s an interesting thought and one that hadn’t crossed my mind.

To build your brand and maximize your money?

That’s kind of the case but not entirely. There are 2 exceptions: A new diagnosis reveals that the player has a high-risk condition. A player's family member dies, is hospitalized or is otherwise moved to a medical facility because of a COVID-19 or related condition.

I’ll play along (even though i voted no). If I were Beane I’d be starting with 2 1sts, a 3rd and a player from a bad NFC team that likely picks in the top 10 (Washington, Giants, Panthers). The Adams trade brought back a lot but it was the equivalent of the 8th pick and a player. A top CB should bring back more. Let’s say that the average draft pick for those 3 teams over the next 2 years is pick 8. Obviously that can change and there’s risk but that’s the risk that you take. You’d be looking at 2 top 10 picks plus your own 2 1sts over the next 2 years. You’d avoid making Tre the highest paid CB ever and can allocate that money elsewhere. Some players that I’d be looking at from those teams (in no particular order): Ronald Darby, Antonio Gibson, Ross Pierschbacher, Ryan Anderson, Fabian Moreau, Darnay Holmes, Xavier McKinney, Darius Slayton, Kyler Fackrell, Evan Engram, Jeremy Chinn, Donte Jackson, and Curtis Samuel. Clearly these guys have different values but it gives you an idea of what we have in mind. If I were to consider it (still wouldn’t but): - Tre and a 4th for 2 1sts, a 3rd, Ronald Darby & Antonio Gibson - Tre and a 7th for 2 1sts, 3rd & Evan Engram - Tre & Marlowe for 2 1sts, a 5th and Jeremy Chinn

This is kind of where I’m at and it’s weird. I honestly believe, if they have their whole roster, this team can win the Super Bowl. I haven’t been able to say that in 20 years. Without all of the camp reports and all of the uncertainty out there I’m just not nearly as excited. I’m ready for football but it isn’t consuming me at the moment. Some of this can be attributed to all of the other sports now going on. We have the NBA and NHL in the playoffs or playoff type of environment. Baseball is in a sprint with every game being more important than in previous years. The PGA Championship starts today. I have enough sports to consume me at the moment that I’m not hanging on every training camp report/interview.

I just watched the whole interview and it sure feels like he’s going to opt out. I get it. Everyone needs to do what they think is best for their family. I’m sure Tre has put a ton of thought into this and hopefully he ends up at peace with his decision.

I get it. I have said that I wouldn’t begrudge guys for opting out and I won’t. Tre is in the verge of a massive deal. I get him not wanting to go into a season with limited camp, no preseason and an international pandemic going on. This year will do more damage to players than most. That’s pretty much inevitable. Now, if the Bills turned around and signed Tre to a massive deal I wouldn’t be mad. It’s inevitably coming anyways. That security will almost inevitably force him to opt in.

Josh was good (as always). He’s just so comfortable in front of the camera. That crew loves him too.

Good post!! That’s well thought out and makes some sense. For me it was as much the timing as the guy but you could be right and Bates’ versatility wins out.

I’m having a hard time believing that they like Bates, Boettger, etc... more when they have had no offseason and played Long ahead of them last year. Now, maybe they decided that they needed to save the money. They could have waited though and did that. I do not, for one second, believe that Long was guy 80 on the roster. Again, it isn’t a huge deal but think that they could have done it better.

I think Beane has done a phenomenal job. That does not mean I think that it’s perfect. It’s okay to disagree at times. Long played well and has the versatility to play center. That’s important with Feliciano out. He feels like the safest backup IOL. That’s why it’s a surprise. I would have tried to trade somebody first. The Bills have used those depth OL as basically compensatory picks. They had a chance, and still have a chance, to do that. They have the deepest OL in the league. I just don’t think that it’s wise to release solid depth at this point.

Well said and that’s kind of the point that I was trying to make. I’d rather pull the plug on guy less likely to make the roster (or any NFL roster). Try to make a trade in the meantime (again don’t care which depth guys go on the OL) and then go back to 80. Release a guy like Webb or Easley or Woodward, etc... I don’t think that they did. I feel VERY confident that the Bills could have traded one of Boettger, Boehm, Long, Williams, Bates or Nsekhe. I would have started by trying to deal one of them. The point remains though why not cut a guy that won’t end up on the roster (ie Easley)?

Who plays behind Morse? No Feliciano and no Long?

This feels like a dumb decision to me. I would think that he has trade value (or one of the other OL do). The Bills have the deepest OL in football. If it wasn’t Long, it could have been Boehm or Bates or Nsekhe or Williams. I felt like they should have tried to spin these quality depth OL into late round picks. Financially I get why Long though. I always thought that he was a bubble guy with his price tag. Just the way that this played out it seems like you might have been able to spin some of the OL into an asset.

Maybe it’s wishful thinking on my part but I think that the Pats will have a hard time recruiting moving forward. Brady and Gronk kind of set the tone that “it’s not fun.” Collins and Van Noy left as well. The opt outs this year furthered that message. People went because they had a chance to win a title every year. I think that shine has worn off some too. Obviously, if they pay guys they will come. All that I’m saying is that the days of the Pats getting guys for $.10 on the dollar are over. They are in great cap shape but they aren’t the Mecca of destinations anymore.

It is done to allow teams to backfill those positions if need be. you’re probably looking at 1 year deals in that case. I’m not sure that this is an option. Those numbers come back onto your books the following year? Do we basically get Star’s cap space this year that we can roll to next year? Basically he will cost 1/2 if we roll it all forward? If so I like that strategy.

Ha ha, I was just coming here to do that lol. I was going to say something about breathing in carbon dioxide and how dangerous it is, yada yada. All sheep!!

I don’t think Spain is competing. He gave up o sacks last year and they signed him to a team-friendly deal. He wasn’t agreeing to that without assurances. Spain is the LG.

The “scheduled” word is kind of convenient IMO. I wish that it said the team must “play” 16 games.

Player must start first game and team must be scheduled 16 games in the 2020-2021 regular season for action.

Also over is -105 and under is -125 Yeah, there are all kinds of numbers that support it. It’s human nature to want to bet overs because it’s the only bet that you can win while the game is still being played. If I make this particular bet I’m going over but I did well on season long under bets last year (except SF ?).