Coastie

The 1970s were miserable huh? Kind of crazy being a Bills fan for 8 years (joined the herd in 1973) before we ever get a win against a certain team in our own division. Winning ugly is still winning was never better exemplified than in that game. 15 turnovers total or something crazy like that.

Heck yeah, keep it up Lorax!

Who knew the Y2K crash prediction was actually about the Bills' playoffs hopes.

I always thought the same as well and wanted to know what a "scripted" drive is. Like you it seems absurd that the first 15 plays are designed to be played in order regardless of down, distance or field position. I also considered that basically the script is more of a list of plays like the first 5 plays for 1st and ten, the first 5 plays for 2nd and 4-7 yards etc. I just have never been real clear on what a scripted drive is exactly.

While watching the last game I saw someone wearing number 90 and thought "Wow, good to see someone who remembers Hansen" only to later realize Shaq Lawson took 90 and it was likely his jersey.

I had already committed to friends and family to play in several cash fantasy football leagues this year or I would do the exact same. My intention now is to cut satellite TV as soon as football is over this year (ESPN and the networks have become cesspools and every other cable show is some personality driven reality show), and if the NFL doesn't get its act together on several issues I'll be letting my fandom become very casual and by that I mean no more memorabilia and MAYBE streaming 550 AM on gameday. Thats it. You and I are about the same age, I just started on the Bills train earlier than you did (44 and possibly my last year) but looks like we may be getting off at the same stop.

I got hooked on the Bills by OJ's 2,003 yards in 1973. We went to the playoffs the next year if I recall and it was all downhill from there for about 5 years as I recall. The 2-12 year was the nadir and the only year I can remember being as depressing as this one.

Five days into the Bills' season and I am right there with you. That has to be a record... I got to have hope this season for only FIVE days.

Since the thread seems to have devolved, I'll play along. (And Heavy Metal cartoon violence ahead but I think all the cartoon naughty bits are gone)

I live in Kentucky so I get the Bengals local radio and they constantly lash out about how flawed that ownership and coaching and management is and every time I hear that I just think the commentators and callers have no idea how bad it can be.

I am going to go positive... one week even a crappy week means nothing. I always remember the week one game where we crushed New England and at the end of the season they were in the playoffs and we weren't. Of course you could look at this as a metaphor for endless futility so, meh, I cover my bases both ways I guess.

My exact thought was this team needs Talley more than anyone else not in the Hall of Fame. Leadership and discipline could make this talented defense one of the greats.

The part I have the most issue with is the NFL has zero issue with team doctors prescribing opiates for injuries and pain but refuse to accept weed for pain management. Less damaging in the long run for certain and as someone who had an ex who was on morphine for a back issue, opiates are bad news across the board. Sadly I think the league believes if weed is used for pain management then players will smoke it recreationally as well. And I say so what, my ex took that morphine recreationally, trust me and I am sure there are players who keep taking opiates long after the need it for pain management.

I remember Greene being a sack monster but other than that (and that is a big that) I don't remember him being a dominant force in the other facets but mine is a very casual remembrance.

I don't have HBO so I've never seen an episode and truthfully didn't go out looking for it. If it was the Bills I would seek it out and watch it.

The NFL is one of the few products out there where you can run your organization terribly and still be a success businesswise. Someone would have to literally have to try to torpedo the organization to make it fail, I mean the movie Major League type machinations and even that might not do it.

Only one I might dispute with you is Mike Evans, I think he will be very good and if he had the QBs some of the others do then could be a top five receiver for years. But overall I agree with your take.

I'll agree with one caveat and that is if they can get a commitment from a legitimate coach who will likely (nothing is certain) be an improvement. I don't think we should fire Ryan after one year with nothing better already waiting.

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Ding Ding Ding. He refused to give a hometown discount to play in a system he knew for coaches he knew behind a line he trusted to make a few EXTRA millions and he had that right. Now he needs to shut his piehole and reap the consequences of his decision.

Wow, what a flashback because I did that for real. I was piloting my Patrol Boat to Kuwait City in 2004 while the Super Bowl was on and since we had arranged to have someone record the game we had a blackout on any information. Some jackhole let the cat out of the bag over the VHF radio so I knew the result and had to bite my tongue as the rest of the crew watched the game. The funniest thing was the guy who dropped the tape off would only tell us to make sure we watched the halftime show, didn't care it was a game that came down to the wire.

How the hell is it ESPN's fault the Colts made a report to the NFL, who investigated? Are they upset because someone who is paid to talk about sports had the temerity to actually criticize the anointed ones rather than just showering them with praise?

If only they had said Go Bills at the end but the creators are from Colorado so guess they are homegrown fans and nothing wrong with that.

167 rushing plus 95 penalty = 262 total

Could not agree more (well except I had him on one of my DraftKings teams, but it was worth losing a few bucks to see him in civvies next week).