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At the risk of overusing this meme:

This is true. i never worried about Trent edwards being able to complete a 5-yard checkdown in the wind.

there’s no reason why our staff can’t outcoach a well-coached team. McD and co. have done so before (chiefs this year, Ravens last year, and really the Pats last year too). The key to me is the players— can Bass make a FG in these conditions? Can Haack not get a punt blocked? Can McKenzie cleanly field kicks and not fumble? Can Josh and the backs not fumble? Can knox and Davis and the other receivers not drop balls? Can Dawkins rebound? That’s just on the players. They have to play better than the patriots.

i hear you. The weather stinks. But you can only control what you can control. And there’s no reason that we, as fans, should be despondent, and that our talented team can’t overcome it. it’s on the players and coaches to adjust and execute in light of the weather. This game will come down to who coaches better and who executes on the small stuff better (penalties, drops, ST plays and mistakes, turnovers, etc).

i agree. I actually wonder if altering the game plan to short stuff is going to help Josh take the easy stuff and play within himself.

this is a joke. I would guess that this could be record winds for a game. 50 MPH?! if you want to see what this game will look like, check out this windy bears game. Can’t snap the ball; can’t hold the ball on FG’s; FG’s going 50 yards wide; 5 muffed punts; 2 completed passes in the first half.

just trying to pull off your classic reverse jinx.

Agree. I bet Star isn’t playing. Just a hunch.

Matt Haack. This guy has had one punt blocked and like five near blocks. If he kicks well and avoids errors, we will be fine. If he makes colossal mistakes, we probably lose. This game is going to come down to things like ST play.

I would just fine guys. Don’t throw flags.

I am not sure people appreciate how windy 20 MPH Is (let alone 40 or 60– which could happen). I have a little 1-person sail boat (dinghy) and if I get like 10 MPH of wind, I am flying. At like 20, I am capsizing.

whats funny about that is the rationale by the coaches and competition committee is that they want to be good role models and teach kids how to act. These fine distinctions between taunting directed at an opponent and over the top celebrations don’t really accomplish that. In fact, at away games, aren’t these celebrations basically just taunting the crowd— not something that should be modeled to kids.

i love how everyone thinks Josh is Ike Uncle Rico, and can throw the ball over the mountains. No one can throw an accurate pass more than 5 yards in 60 MPH wind gusts! Even in 20 MPH winds, go and watch that Ravens/Bills playoff game— it was horrible. 40 attempts for 200 yards passing. i just think that if Daboll doesn’t specifically gameplan for this weather, it’s going to be a sloppy mess on offense for us. Errant throws, dropped balls, etc.

i will say that it doesn’t really jive with their new emphasis against taunting. i can’t think of a more blatant form of taunting than having your entire team run Up and Down the field, and then proceed to do a choreographed celebration. But I guess so long as they are diverting their direct gaze from the opponent players, it’s okay?! 🤔

i hope you are right. But the forecast now is not your “normal” sort of weather. It’s calling for sort of a rare “high wind event.”

I may have posted this article before, but a pretty good analysis of wind on QB play. Bottom line: Anything up to 15 MPH is negligible. 15-20 MPH causes a dip in production. Anything over 20 MPH is a serious problem: “The effect of wind/wind gusts is the most significant weather variable affecting QB performance. The effects are fairly slight for avg wind speeds from 0 mph up to about 15 mph, but above that threshold, the difference in fantasy points is about 12% less. In games with winds over 20 mph, the negative effects are more significant, with ~17% fewer fantasy points per game.” https://towardsdatascience.com/football-weather-diving-into-the-effects-of-weather-on-nfl-qb-performance-f0edb420623d

i don’t think Breida got touches in that dolphins game? And I blocked out the colts game from my mind—haha! i do think though, we will see those guys back there together. We did a little of that in a game earlier in the year when Moss and DS were in the backfield together. And given that Gilliam is Gimpy, I think it makes more sense.

they would have to practice in this fo mimic Monday:

Daboll is my biggest concern. Doesn’t seem like he usually gameplans based on the weather or risk of weather. In our playoff game against Baltimore last year— which was very windy— we threw the ball almost 40 times.

This isn’t another weather or dome thread— I promise! in light of what is expected to be extraordinarily windy conditions on MNF, how do you think each team’s roster and gameplan changes, if at all? Here are a few thoughts I have had: 1) patriots defense goes back to man. From everything I have read, the Pats have gone increasingly zone (cover 2 shell, cover 4) over the last several weeks. With heavy wind, I would expect they could revert to man and loaded boxes— taking away the run and everything short and actually giving us the deep stuff. 2) Bills change up personnel and focus on run game. I am predicting that the Bills for the first time activate DS, Moss, and Breida for the same game, and that we may see two of the three in the backfield at the same time. This may be stating the obvious, but out of necessity, I would expect a run heavy offense. Lots of two TE formations. Lots of sweeps. Designed QB runs.

I beg you— please build a dome or a retractable roof or a huge wall. The wind is the problem. It’s going to make this game unwatchable. I guarantee you neither QB has more than 150 yards passing.

i am not sure which drive it was— but the reason we settled for that FG was solely because of Dawkins. I think that was the one when he thought the end was going into the flat, and just let him go unabated to Josh. It was as bad and dumb of a mental error that I have ever seen a LT make.

interesting to hear how JB was watching Anselem in practice and suggested a mechanics change to his FT’s— now the guy is clutch at the line. You sort of wonder if they could play him At the 4— offense would suffer, but that length on the back line on D with Swider, edwards, and Frank would be pretty sweet.

i am more worried about the wind. Anything over 15 MPH will become a serious problem.

Is that true that the Saints ran a lot of cover 2 against us? I thought they mostly played man— but certainly could be wrong.