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Just out of curiosity- Do you call every athlete who doesn't play because of a pulled hamstring, soft, or just Lamar Jackson? genuinely curious. Like is George Kittle soft to you because he's on IR with a hamstring injury?

Better than Babich that's for sure

I know it's not, I didn't word my statement well

Hot meaning everyone seems to be using it the last few years or so. I remember listening to Joe Marino last year after that dolphin game and he was going off saying the EPA was good But let's put it this way- If we are using PFF analytics to determine whether a defence is good or bad, that's not exactly the most credible source lol

I get EPA is the new hot metric, I personally think it's dumb for the most part though. I remember that dolphins game last year Where the bills could not stop Miamis run game and basically offence overall- And They got graded a high EPA in that game.. Which makes no sense to me as anyone who watched that game knew they couldn't stop a nose bleed

Yep exactly. If bills makes a stop on that opening possession on 3rd and long, it could have been 14-0 bills in a blink of an eye and the whole game script changes for the Saints

When you force a turnover you get off the field. But how can you possibly say that's more of an important stat than looking at being 25th on first downs allowed, and 29th on 3rd downs when it comes to getting off the field? Lol. They were a big play defence which is important. But that Doesn't mean they consistently stopped anyone...25th in first downs allowed and 29th on 3rd downs literally shows they were one of the worst teams in the nfl in stopping teams

I love Al and I think he's one of the better play by play guys of all time but he needs to hang it up lol

29th in 3rd downs and 25th in 1st downs allowed. Those are the main two stats when it comes to measuring them getting off the field. It was bad. Turnovers are a different conversation. They are splash /big plays, and yes they were great at it.

That's my bad- Not every day my Jays win the pennant haha. Back to football now

Huh? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about lol

Ya doesn't seem like Bichette will be back. Don't got much faith in Vladdy but he's gonna need to bring it

As a jays fan I actually wanted the Yankees to win. Wanted nothing to do with Crochet

Mac Jones year, 2021. Did an incredible job with him and made the playoffs that year. Got a head coaching job the next season

Ya I think it's because he hasn't had the splash plays like Walker has. Seems like Sanders is doing "ok" IMO. He has been put in a tough spot with the Oliver injury. I think in a perfect world the Bills wanted him to be a situational pass rusher to start the season, but he's been asked to play a lot more snaps cause the injury to Ed.

You are judging Mcdaniels as a head coach, not a coordinator. To get a head coaching job, you have to be a very good to an elite coordinator. And he has had multiple head coaching jobs- In 2009 and 2022- Which shows he has been an excellent coordinator for almost 20 years. Babich on the other hand has accomplished nothing in this league as a coordinator and the defence has gotten worse since he has taken over in 2024. These are all facts you cannot deny, whether you think it is his fault or not.

We can disagree all good. The bills defence under Babich doesn't really give me much confidence at all and I think that's fair to think that way. Im glad you're more confident in him than I am. Like I said I still think the Bills win. I just go back to my original point where I say McDaniel is a much better coordinator than Babich which does give me some concern in this game. I don't think many people would disagree with me there. Anyways, Go Bills.

The Bills were elite at turnovers last year which is an extrEmely metric, no Question. But to keep it simple- They were straight up just bad at getting off the field in total last year. And going back to this conversation, my biggest concern in this game is McDaniels and Maye shredding them on 3rd downs and moving the ball with relative ease

Because it doesn't tell close to the whole story. Bills offence barely turned it over last year and rarely put them in a bad spot. So of course if your offence turns the ball over like crazy, it's going to put the defence in a bad spot which is going to result in a higher points against. And on the other end, if the offence doesn't turn the ball over much and the other team has to go 70-80 yards every time, it's going to help their PPG. Agreed? Well they were 29th in 3rd down defence and I believe 25th in letting up first downs in total. There were also many stats that I don't have at the top of my head that had them ranked in the bottom half of the league.

Ya that's fair and I don't disagree with that part

He got a head coaching job as Mac Jones as his QB lol. He did an insane job with Mac on his rookie season as they even made the playoffs . Unless you are saying Mac Jones made the OC..

I mean, the fact that he got two head coaching jobs shows that he's a very good coordinator. Bobby Babich ain't getting that opportunity anytime soon lol You can be a great coordinator but a crap head coach. (McDaniels, spagnulo etc) The bills have the 11th ranked defence last year? What stat are you using to say that? (Please tell me it's not points per game) If you watch other teams consistently which I'm sure you do, you would say with 100 percent certainty that the bills did not have the 11th best defence last year. It was more bottom 12 with turnovers saving them from being bottom 5

He's 10x better than Babich, but at the end of the day his passive defensive scheme got shredded in the playoffs year after year

First off I do think the bills win this game by a TD or so. But my big concern for coaching is Josh McDaniels vs Bobby Babich. That is a massive advantage for the Pats IMO

Again. You're talking pain tolerance vs a soft tissue injury. It's a completely different conversation. If he took himself out cause he was sore or he had bruise? Then ya I would rip on him also