BillsFan130

Because it doesn't tell close to the whole story. Bills offence barely turned it over last year and rarely put them in a bad spot. So of course if your offence turns the ball over like crazy, it's going to put the defence in a bad spot which is going to result in a higher points against. And on the other end, if the offence doesn't turn the ball over much and the other team has to go 70-80 yards every time, it's going to help their PPG. Agreed? Well they were 29th in 3rd down defence and I believe 25th in letting up first downs in total. There were also many stats that I don't have at the top of my head that had them ranked in the bottom half of the league.

Ya that's fair and I don't disagree with that part

He got a head coaching job as Mac Jones as his QB lol. He did an insane job with Mac on his rookie season as they even made the playoffs . Unless you are saying Mac Jones made the OC..

I mean, the fact that he got two head coaching jobs shows that he's a very good coordinator. Bobby Babich ain't getting that opportunity anytime soon lol You can be a great coordinator but a crap head coach. (McDaniels, spagnulo etc) The bills have the 11th ranked defence last year? What stat are you using to say that? (Please tell me it's not points per game) If you watch other teams consistently which I'm sure you do, you would say with 100 percent certainty that the bills did not have the 11th best defence last year. It was more bottom 12 with turnovers saving them from being bottom 5

He's 10x better than Babich, but at the end of the day his passive defensive scheme got shredded in the playoffs year after year

First off I do think the bills win this game by a TD or so. But my big concern for coaching is Josh McDaniels vs Bobby Babich. That is a massive advantage for the Pats IMO

Again. You're talking pain tolerance vs a soft tissue injury. It's a completely different conversation. If he took himself out cause he was sore or he had bruise? Then ya I would rip on him also

You understand that if you play through a soft tissue injury and it's not fully healed, that can lead to a massive injury right? (See Kevin Durant in 2019 finals, Tyrese Halliburton last season) Both tore their Achilles from coming too soon from a calf injury. In respect to you I'm sure you were a good athlete. I was descent myself as i played AAA baseball for many seasons. But Comparing us to Lamar Jackson and nfl players is not even in the same ballpark lol. The doctors aren't gonna clear the 250 dollar man in Lamar if it's not healed, especially in a regular season game.

Have you guys ever had a pulled hamstring or groin before ? Lol. You literally cannot run. There's a massive difference between playing through a pain tolerance injury like a bone bruise (Greg Rousseau for example) compared to a pulled hamstring or like a strained calf No NFL player is playing a game with a pulled hamstring

Haha. All good buddy. Just a bit confused by what you think as you have changed your statements many times on the matter. Anyways, go Bills. Josh> Lamar

In this thread to paraphrase, you have said: 1. He pulled himself out of the game because of a bad situation 2. That you expect him to miss the next game 3. You said he tweaked his hamstring and he's actually hurt 4. Now you said His hamstring isn't pulled. 5. And finally you're hinting like you thinks he plays this weekend Which one is it buddy? As you're just flip flopping your opinion every minute lol

Ok so you're backtracking then. As I can quote you as you said multiple times he hurt his hamstring. I will take the L if he plays this week. Nothing has changed my friend. I expect the same from you if he doesn't play

I'm not sure why you're trying to argue here. You acknowledged he actually did get hurt and has a hammy pull. Correct? Which is what I was saying. So what exactly is your main point. Is it That he's not "tough enough" to play through a pulled hamstring?

Yep. That's the thing. They are basically only competing against the Steelers to get in the playoffs and host a wild card game. As there's no way I see the browns and bengals winning the division lol

No I agree especially if they are 1-5 as that's a tough hole to climb out of. But they are so talented. Their defence also sucked the first half of last year and they turned it around big time. Still a ton of football to be played and assuming they get their guys back after the bye, I would definitely still bet on them to make the playoffs

Most of them will be back after their bye week. Madubuike I believe is the only one who isn't returning

I would be shocked if they don't go at least 5-1 in those games you mentioned. Now injuries is the wild card here. If all their guys are out for 6 weeks, then I would agree. But i believe all of them will be back outside of Madubuike after the bye. They are still going to be a force and a tough out IMO

I hear you, but Their schedule really softens up after the next 2 games. Even if they go 1-5 to start, 10-7 will still get them in the playoffs which I think they will ultimately do

Your 2nd last paragraph where you bolded that McDermott will be in the defensive meetings this week is interesting. Where did you hear that? As if that's true (I have no reason to believe you would make that up) that's not a good sign for Babich

I understand. If you want to talk about Josh Vs Lamar and playoff success in this thread that's totally fair. I just don't know why it was brought up to me when my comment was on Lamar isn't faking an injury. But A hammy pull is a hammy pull. That's not a bump or bruise. Josh or any nfl player would also be missing time with a pulled hamstring. Theres nothing you can do to push through with that injury

Again- No idea how him not playing well in the playoffs has anything to do with faking an injury. Show me any credible source that Lamar Jackson wasn't actual hurt when Tyler Huntley started that playoff year. I'll wait.

Agreed. That's all I was trying to say before the conversation on the previous page got sidetracked

Fair, my apologies as I did get sidetracked replying to comments that weren't really related to what I said. All I was saying was Lamar isn't faking an injury. And somehow that comment got twisted to a conversation about "Lamar not being good in the playoffs" and comparing him to Josh/Mahomes

If he plays next week, I'll take the L and I'll admit I'm wrong. If he doesn't play, then you take the L and admit you were wrong . (As there's no way the ravens would sit him when they are 1-3 if he's not actually hurt) Deal? How does this have anything to do with faking or exaggerating an injury? Lol. Let's stay on topic here bud as you're going down a rabbit hole with this. im not sure why in multiple posts people are bringing up Josh in this conversation and playoff performances. All I said was he's not faking or exaggerating an injury

Respectfully I have no idea what you're trying to imply in this post lol. What exactly am I eating up?