ExiledInIllinois

@BringBackFergy @Beerball Time to shut down all roads that go through the woods! From The Weather Channel: https://weather.com/science/nature/video/struggle-is-real-for-mama-bear-and-cub-on-canadian-highway?pl=pl-the-latest https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mama-bear-tries-help-struggling-172528063.html

"Prince of Liechtenstein" is that @BringBackFergy goes by when he goes on a European "Forest Bathing" trip? "🇱🇮Prince of Liechtenstein🇱🇮" Come to think about it, that would be a great name for @Gugny's vessel! That would look awesome plastered across the transom of a all-aluminum, deep-V dinghy! 😃

Already covered here: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/232324-it’s-back-better-than-evar-🐻🧸/page/3/#comments

Yeah, you're right. Sorry for judgement. I wish they'd eliminate the EV premium. It's what is really discouraging people, IMO Then car insurance goes up 23%! https://www.valuepenguin.com/how-having-electric-car-affects-your-auto-insurance-rates "On average, we found that car insurance for an electric vehicle is about 23% more expensive than the cost for the equivalent combustion model." "Why is there a difference? One major factor why car insurance premiums are higher may be that the cost of the vehicles are higher. Electric vehicles tend to be filled with cutting-edge technology like high-capacity batteries, sophisticated sensors, and more. The more a vehicle costs, the more expensive it is to repair."

Fair enough. IMO, things will cost us more. In long run we'll pay more... Get that break even point under 5 years, even better 3 and we're in business. Look how they have us hooked on cellphones. Barely end up paying it off if lucky and thing goes bad. They will work obsolescence into cars. I will believe it when I see it. We are land of unintended consequences!

1. We shall see! 2. LoL... Oh yes they will lay around. In the poorer communities. BUT we shall see. Is it free to take a battery in? I know they will give you a discount on a new one with normal lead acid batteries. Call me a skeptic! You're less off the grid, hook with an ICE. This will speed up more environmental racism, create more sacrifice zones...

We will see. Yet, I can tear into an engine and fix it, not so much fixing a battery... I hope green vehicles become DYI. Once they start flooding the market and getting miles put on... The used car 100,000 market will the beater vehicles laying all around be more "toxic?" What's the long term plan for the working-class, DYI, poorer communities? Will they still have the freedom? Or... Tied to a power grid? The rich engineer in your article didn't discuss that... When we fully go this new tech. Is a rusted automobile with oil in it worse than a rusted automobile laying with a lithium battery in it? Going across country... Will you have to swipe your card for juice? Get rid of the cost premium for basically a rebadged, different power-plant ICE vehicle and I am on board. $7,000 is over almost a 100,000 miles on a vehicle. That's 10 years. An average car loan is 5 years... Get green vehicels to start saving you money under 5 years and I am on board. I am still skeptical because of real-world parameters that you'll end up shelling out more, not really help the environment and lose your lack of DYI freedom. It's going to hit the poorer communities harder, IMO.

Yeah... But does he drag a vehicle out to a 1/4 of a million miles or more?

$40k for that thing? It's worth no more than $20k IMO. You paid $8k too much. I just looked it up! A gas version Chevy Trax or Buick Encore is same except they run on fuel. They go $21,000 MSRP. $7,000 will buy you a lot fuel on a vehicle that gets 32mpg Highway! That will take you a whopping... About ~75,000 miles (ballpark estimate). That's 7.5 years for most! Batteries last 7.5 years? Those batteries will be a maintenance nightmare @ 75,000-100,000 miles! By then the gas vehicle will then be saving the environment AND will still have another 100,000 miles to give on it's STANDARD service life... IF not more! To each their own, but the EV premium is too steep! @ full price $40k, I can't imagine how many years it will take until you start saving money! $28k does cut that down by a third... BUT in the end the EV is still hurting the enviro more AND worse, your pocketbook! Simply put... EVs have to get closer to where fuel vehicles are. The EV premium has to disappear! $7,000 is a lot of years, miles on an already environmentally friendly fuel burning vehicle! IMO... If I haven't laid it out already, it's not helping the environment. Probably worse footprint on the environment with overall manufacturing footprint and then higher end of service life foot print. Somebody, please crunch through the EV Premium numbers, tell me I am wrong, I wanna feel good about EVs! ...But, I honestly I won't until EV prices jive more with their fuel counterparts.

Well you did ask for it. LoL... I stated the obvious which you really didn't seem to have the memo on. 😉😁

Buckle your chin strap next time! 😉 Oh... For the record @Augie, It was just easy to poke fun at one the most famous Corps projects that gets the Enviro cackles in a cluster! Florida produces the most sugarcane and is 10th in beef production... I don't think that happens in Disney World, Animal Kingdom. It's at the top, roughly being 1/5 of the production of #1, Lil Ole Texas! Yet Texas is 5 times bigger while the Everglades covers roughly 20% of Florida... There is a reason they drained it in the first place: Big Ag and a return on fed dollars to the rest of the nation for money spent on infrastructure projects... Nobody is being enlightened by these obvious facts. You seem shocked. Again, just a joke... Easy poking fun at the Corps. I do it all the time. Anyway... Simplified...That's a lot of cows in da Magic Kingdom! 😉

I don't think it's a crusade, more of running joke... Or should we call it a jousting joke. That's Fergy falling off his horse! 😉

So 1950s! The Corps drained the Everglades in the '50s... Where do you think you get all your sugar and beef from! They are in the process of restoring things! You'll be sorry when there is nothing to put on the smoker you "borrowed l" from you're neighbor! Enjoy the tofu!

From The Weather Channel: https://weather.com/health/coronavirus/video/face-covering-is-mans-portable-oasis?pl=pl-the-latest What ya think @BringBackFergy? @Beerball straps one of these on, the bears will never notice him!

"Ovals" do the trick!

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/01/colorado-woman-killed-rare-black-bear-attack-durango

Nonsense! 😊

I am vaxxed... So I will park at Hammers as I usually. Anyway, does this mean the guy that parks in the dentist's lot next door, and makes awesome Canadian bacon breakfast sammiches (I am looking at you @BringBackFergy) has to pass them to me through concertina wire fence? 😕 Fergy, I think we have a problem...😅😕

Wilson is up near Old Fort Niagara... If you like history... https://www.oldfortniagara.org/ 17 minute drive... 13 miles from Wilson, NY to Youngstown, NY...

"Dave & Busters"... “It reminds him of his two favorite people: Buster Douglas and Dave Concepcion.” 😆🤣😂

What can I say? Buffalo's only reason it exists. 😃

Wilson is on Lake Ontario... Very nice! That's the first harbor I ever sounded. I will always remember it because it was early March and we had to bust though the ice to launch the boat. I got wet and spent time drying off in truck, staying warm. 😆... I was a rook, new kid in the hydrographic survey crew. Nice beach there. Wilson Harbor is where the Canadian deviants smuggle American cigarettes out of back to their MotherLand of The North. Or, at used too... 😆 Special ShoutOut to my Best Buds. They will vouch that this is the real deal! @BringBackFergy @Gugny @Beerball @Mike in Horseheads @Seasons1992 While your up in Niagara County, I think they have these little things called: "locks" there, "flight locks" to be more specific. Lockport Locks... Check out the town too... Gr8 if you can bring a deep-v all aluminum boat to tool around in! https://buffalonews.com/multimedia/a-closer-look-navigating-the-lockport-locks/collection_c92f56a4-9f7b-589d-bfac-90b66244146f.html#4

The 4 original versions:

"The Crazy Line"... 😆🤣 Tires get slashed, car keyed, bunny in a pot!