Mr Info

Good luck, Pooj. If I hear of anything in our area (or elsewhere) I will send you a message.

I am 51 and have been a life-long Bills fan. I am not ready to jump ship on the Bills but I am ready to cancel my season tickets that I have had for quite a while. The enjoyment I get from the whole experience (tailgates, TBD people, food, etc.) usually trumps however bad the Bills are playing. However, the retention of Jauron and Wilson's apathy to the whole mess is perplexing. This is the first time I have ever felt this way. Perhaps, some unusual occurrences will provide some optimism before I have to make the renewal commitment - if so, then I will renew. Yet, I was at the finale vs. Pats and regardless of whomever the Bills obtain in the off-season, the reality is that BB will always outcoach DJ. Currently, I use the following analogy on the Bills (this will confirm my age). I liken the Bills to Woolworths: the quality of goods in the store started to decline toward the end and you didn't buy as many items. However, the lunch counter (read tailgate, game-day experience) still remained popular until they closed. There are reasons to be optimistic that it does not play out the same way for the Bills as it did for Woolworths. But, this is the first time I have felt that I am being 'had' by Ralph. If I cancel tix, I expect I will still travel for a game or two but I am going to be very cautious in my optimism for '09.

As I posted in another link, I am not renewing. If you want mine, figure out from the Bills how you I can transfer them to you and they are yours. And this offer goes for anyone else interested in season tickets. Great aisle seats in sec 113. I will continue to root for the Bills and expect to renew my Sunday ticket. I hope for all the Bills fans on this board, especially season ticket holders, that the Bills turn it around and become an elite team or, at least, competitive. I sincerely hope that I will rue the day that I did not renew them. I have been a lifelong fan and have endured previous misery as well as enjoyment from the Bills and I did considerable soul-searching before I made this decision having been a season ticket holder for many years. But, I see fundamental issues regarding the Bills that need to be corrected before I continue to make the season ticket commitment. I will never be a fan of any team other than the Buffalo Bills and my family and I have enough Bills items to outfit a school.

I have great seats (sec 113) and have been a season ticket holder for quite a number of years but I will not be renewing. I will still remain a Bills' fan and go to a game or two a year but I can't renew with a Jauron extension. It's not just that but the accumulation of inadequate performance and questionable decision making by the Bills for a while. I hope the Bills turn it around and I regret this.

Put me down for 108.

Ya know...when I saw the title and the references to Shooting Star, GM and Coach...it immediately brought to mind this NASA diatribe: apropos for the current state of the Bills.

At this point, I am not sure. That is a combination of disappointment as well as the logistics of being a remote season ticket holder (9 hr drive or flight: usually the latter). I have been a season ticket holder long enough that I have worked my way to 40 yd line seats. I will always remain a Bills' fan and also have Sunday ticket since I can only attend about 3-4 games/year. I have never considered not renewing my tix until recently. From my perspective, it's a little bit of everything...continual crappy seasons, moving a game to TO, flex schedule (tough to plan travel ahead of time when remote), $, etc. We enjoy everything about game day (outside or inside the stadium) and we eagerly look forward to the whole shtick. I try to remain the eternal optimist but due to everything that has occurred this year, I want something...anything...to lift my hopes for next year. I can still go to a couple of games a year without having season tickets but being a season ticket holder is something I take pride in as well as visiting my former home in WNY. My love for WNY will not fade but I am starting to ponder why not take an easier route for 2-3 games/yr than buying season tix. I believe my perspective will fade but I was at the MNF game this year and it has been brutal to watch the games since then...big-time disappointment. I will be at the Pats game.

Christmas on Acid

I am a season ticket holder that also lives in VA. I go to 3-4 games a year. I have only driven once in the last several years. I can usually pick up direct flights from BWI or DCA rather affordably when I shop way ahead. The cost of gasoline, as well as the length of the trip, also contributes to considering the cost of flying. The tickets I sell on ebay, etc. for the games I will not be attending pay for the cost of my flights. Usually, I fly up on Sat morning and return after the game on Sunday night. Then I avoid all traffic problems along the beltway. Note that this scenario works for home games prior to flex scheduling at the end of Nov. and any Sun/Mon night games (not many of these for the Bills). So most of the games we attend are prior to fthe end of Nov as we can shop for flights early.

230 I am expecting 75% are due to the Bills.

The town where we live, Ashland, VA, is 150 years old and there is a family-owned grocery store in town, Cross Brothers (no web site), that has been run by the Cross family for generations. They have an index card system and if you don't have the coin with you, you simply put it on your tab. You buy your groceries and, if you like, they deliver it to your place. Or you can call them up and tell them what you want and they deliver it. An interesting place and one with a loyal customer base that has been able to survive the onslaught of the nearby chains. Though their selection is not as vast as the chains, they custom cut meat and have all of the basics. If there is something in particular that one wants, they will stock it. As would be expected, there is more banter at this store and quite a few senior citizens present but the family is good about having enough people at the register so that if someone wants to chat awhile, they step aside and another family member/employee takes over another register.

I was supposed to enter at Gate 1 but I saw the massive crowd gathered there (~ 7:50). Instead, I went over to Gate 2 and got in about 5 minutes later.

370 Hammer

Enjoyed it. It also popped up a side link to one of my Floyd faves "Corporal Klegg". Here's another obscure one: Aside: Root Boy was a frat brother (DKE, not Skull & Bones) of W until George booted him out for smoking pot at the frat house. FWIW: I went as Root Boy to a Halloween party this year.

Rick, Great to hear...Congrats to you & B!!

Papa John Creach with Keb Mo When Keb Mo was Kevin Moore. You said obscure.

In deference to Ludes, we used to have a party every July 14 (either you get it or you don't). We still do if we remember.

Fine is finally back. Maybe they can get him involved in the passing game. The guy caught 46 passes his senior year at Kansas. He has to be better than Royal in holding onto the football.

Unfortunately, those guaranteed benefits will have to change in order for competition to be restored. If not, that it may be the downfall for the big 3 (or maybe it will be 2). I do not believe that many of us have anything 'guaranteed' from our jobs at retirement. It was a great deal negotiated by the unions at the time for their retired workers but competition was different and times have changed. If this is not re-negotiated and one of them is purchased/bankrupt/etc., then many of the benefits may be changed or dropped. Yeah, I know, different forum.

Hammer 33:19

Hot Damn - I am there for MNF: $86 RT from BWI! Thanks for the heads up.

We use a land line for our security system. If there is another option, I probably would dump the land line. Almost forgot... Directv uses the land line, too.

.02: If we get TG, who is going to block? If TG is in the game and he is going out, I am sending all-out blitzes at TE. OK, maybe he completes some of them but there is the chance that he takes a good hit (re: Arizona) and is lost. They are keeping Royal, et al, in on most occasions so that TE has enough time. Take the tight end away and its the Pamplona blitz. If TG has to block most of the time, why give up so much for him? They also want to get Lynch and Jackson involved in the passing game. Maybe keep Royal, etc. in to protect Edwards and send out Lynch and Jackson more often as receivers.

If I have a couple of years left and I am not looking at a new contract, I'm not moving from KC to Buf. My bet is that TG ends up in/near a big market city.

Entertaining...some NSFW words...and very close to the truth. Subprime crisis explained