london_bills

Remember the seasons more important than one game.

Didn't the browns play a SERIES with Quinn and a series with Anderson years ago? ??????

Inaccurate bullets Vs accurate pellets. ( Most of the time).

A good game for his 'development' for sure. A better watch too

What makes you say that then?

I would be surprised if Allen plays Sunday.

Just talking about injuries, gutted when Allen got the concussion but did anyone else think an injury to this guy was just a matter of time? I was worried about an ACL or some s*** when he was getting brought down on the line of scrimmage. Ok so I'm a worrier ??

Something like accuracy would be evident from day one. In the same way than Allen's athleticism would be evident from day one.

Yeah. One big change - start to pump fake the deep ball with the intent to throw underneath

I think a point that should be made - which I've alluded to, is that the defence is protecting Allen. Because the defense has played so well Allen's INTs and FUMBLES haven't been highlighted as much as they WOULD have been if the defence had folded and we were blown out. It would have been highlighted that Allen lost us the game there. Could argue that it's good for his 'development' for Allen to fail before he succeeds but the defence has allowed him to take his risks. I'm OK with Allen's risks as long as he gets better.. HOWEVER im not convinced he's going to get the point where WE WANT after seeing him regress like that.

'Allen needs help...badly.' Receivers are open. Didn't look like he needed help first drive after the half.

With a load of beers?

Mahomes and Allen don't belong in the same sentence.

Its like tunnel vision your describing. I HAVE seen that kind of thing with Allen in terms of focus, in clutch moments, but it's whether it can be sustained or whether he will only ever flash it. He always seems more settled when he can run for some yards in drives, teams will take that away though and force him to be a pocket passer

He needs to start sliding NOW. No need to dive head first. I think he will always have some risk to his play in terms of INTS because of his nature and the fact that he is not the most accurate QB.

It might have come to that as he's not listening to his coach! ? It is!

'he will never be a great QB because of his inaccuracy'. I tend to agree. I always notice how INACCURATE Allen is when another QB Barkley or Peterman, yes Peterman, came in and looked more pinpoint. When Allen's IN RHYTHM he's better on all fronts. He's not naturally accurate and so this element of his game gets worse when he is under pressure or 'in his head'.

I disagree. I saw something further against new England that made me question whether he has it. He was intimidated to me. How do you know he is precisely the same player after the game that he was before? He's better than Edwards and Barkley and we both know that. There are more highs and lows with Allen than the other two.

Haha. What I heard was the original trade in place was Zay +pick to Minnesota for Diggs

Absolutely. he didn't lose the game on his own no. I mean 3 picks is giving the opposition the ball 3 times but the defence again did their thing. The interceptions with Allen don't bother ME that much. Neither does throwing across the body. There IS an issue with both of those but he's hit some for gains and I want an element of that still there because it's exciting.

There is hysteria but it's not all hysteria. Just like it wasnt just Allen that won the three games. No 2 defence in the league.

When I first got into football all I would read is cannon arm this, rocket arm that. People generally go ON and ON about Allen's ARM. Give me the rest please. I don't want an arm behind a scrimmage throwing a football. Give me a brain. Give me an instinct. Give me composure.

Mahomes makes it look SOO EASY ?

Mahomes is UNREAL.

People do not have to hold a BLACK or WHITE opinion of Allen. One doesn't need to be all on him or all out on him at this point, you can hold shades of both opinions to an equal or varying extent. You can have faith in him but still ask all the questions you have listed. There will always be boneheaded posts. Often for attention