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Nope. The 2012 KC Chiefs had a 13.18 PF/PG his last season as an NFL OC. It could be a record.

How many right hands does Belichick have?

I'm trying real hard not to be negative about this hire, but that is down right scary. You're being incredibly loose with the term if the Saints qualify as "ground and pound".

I'm pretty much over "ground and pound". We had a top overall rushing attack for two years, and a top 10 attack this year, and it's not like we were killing teams out there. It makes comebacks impossible and I get jealous watching all these modern NFL offenses.

Look man, I'm not here to start an argument, but those are the facts. We also don't have a good QB. He was fired 3 times in 4 seasons. Those totals are bad. I'm actually still a little optimistic because of his experience, but those are the facts.

A franchise QB solves all problems, but for reference his NFL OC history is atrocious. He finished in the bottom 4 in total offense 3 of 4 years: 2009 Cleveland Browns - 29th ranked offense 2010 Cleveland Browns - 31st ranked offense 2011 Miami Dolphins - 20th ranked offense 2012 Kansas City Chiefs - 32nd ranked offense

McDermott's tenure here could be dependent on this hire and how he handles the offense if it struggles.

Fans are gonna fan.

??? You better be joking.

Marrone won’t give them a chance. I expect less than 10 more pass attempts from here out.

Injury or not, he can only improve, right?

Thank you for that.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but could you share some metrics that support the idea that Cousins has been lighting up the league? A quick glance shows that he's been pretty pedestrian. Of course, pedestrian is a giant upgrade over Taylor, but at what cost?

My point isn't effective? Buddy, we had Shady for two years where we lead the league in rushing and missed the playoffs just the same. We've drafted Travis Henry, McGahee, Lynch, and Spiller during the drought -- all of whom were just fine for us at different points. We got some of our best production out of a 5th round pick (K. Williams), and a street free agent (Mike Gillislee) as recently as last year. If we had just used Fred Jackson as our starter during his time here, those Lynch and Spiller picks could have been additional 1st round impact players at other positions. If my point isn't effective, it's because you're clueless.

It blows my mind that Bills fans exist that want to draft a RB. Was our 17 year drought not enough evidence of how little a star running back helps your team? Get a guy off the street that weighs half as much as Tolbert and we’re fine.

How good is Kirk Cousins though? He’s not exactly tearing the league up.

What an exaggeration.

The feeling is mutual.

I don’t follow the Bills for the soap-opera-scoops, so consider me in the camp that thinks these “insider posts” should be banned.

Now I'm curious. What do YOU think a football message board should look like? What topics are we allowed to discuss? I hope that by asking this I'm not acting like "complete sludge."

We ran several spread formations on Sunday. We rolled out Taylor PLENTY of times. What you're suggesting -- that we somehow limited him by not changing the entire offense to literally pop warner level play calling -- isn't even true. We DID alter the offense significantly for Taylor. You still have to call plays where the QB throws from the pocket. And stop referring to last year like it was any different. Taylor's stats, indicated in this very thread, prove that over 44 games he's been incredibly ineffective. His biggest strength, not turning the ball over, is completely mitigated by his inability to score.

That's fine. You can blame Dennison all you want, but the only constant over three seasons and three OC's is that our passing offense has ranked literally at the bottom. I tend to think there's a much larger correlation you're missing here...

The scheme change is why he couldn't hit any deep balls this season? Hot take.

Is that Dennison's fault? You make it sound like there's some magical offensive scheme with Tyrod where all of the sudden he's unstoppable. We called plenty of roll-out style pass plays in the second half of the season. We called several designed QB runs. What do you want Dennison to do exactly?

More than half the time he doesn't throw for 200 yards. I'm sorry, but this isn't rugby. Time to move on.