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This before free agency and draft, and a huge hole filled

Could be expensive depth.

They need to hedge their bet and to have a QB. Depending on how things turn out they might be glad to have TT. Also the trade could be for another player who is carrying dead or bonus money too. A trade cant be made yet so they could be postering for other teams that might be interested in him. I wonder what draft pick would be worth eating 6 million..

He came to buffalo as the #1 rated run blocking FB, nothing wrong with his performance. If the offense is planing on using a FB in the run game it would be ridicules to cut him. They fired the O coordinator for a reason, he under performed with the talent he had. If the offense is going to rid the FB position thats fine but there has been no indication of that.

When will it stop!!! His cap hit is 2 mil and dead cap is 1.5 mil... League minimum for 2018 is drum roll please....... $480,000 So save 20,000 against the cap....

I cant wait till the draft is over so the conversation will change. No one knows what spots are available to move up to or what the cost would be anyway. Not to mention there is no agreement that there is anyone QB worth trading up to get.

Pay the FA proven QB trade back one or both picks and built a team. On the same token I would not want them to trade back if they feel they could get a super star.

Yes if all else is equal then grab the pick. During the season the starting guard, leading TD catching WR and rotational DE would have needed to be cut to get a 3rd. That talk is crazy when winning. If the season was a lost cause then thats different.

During the season aI started to hate the compensatory pick system because I was so tired of seeing threads that the bills should cut several contributing players for like a 3rd round pick while the playoff hut was very alive. If playoff were off the table then why not. If a team is trying to gain comp picks then they are not trying to build a football team.

I would like to know the rumor from the same source of what is expected in return. Would be quiet a bit of dead money and about 4 mill in cap savings. Sounds good if you believe RBs are a dime a dozen.

With all the needs talk I figured I would create a thread on what starters from 2017 that are under contract in 2018, and the resources available to fill the roster. A few side notes added is unsure areas. If I made any mistakes let me know and I will edit. The starting roster isnt as bad as I thought but depth is another story. Absolute needs Offense QB pick up TT or???, WR need 1 speed guy TE resign O'Leary RFA? Defense DT KW? MLB, RCB Special Teams P&KR Resources to fill needs Available cap 29.3 Million Draft picks 1st 21 & 22 2nd 21 & 24 3rd 32 4th 21 5th 21& 29 6th none 7th none Offense QB Tyrod Taylor (Option pick up ?) RB LeSean McCoy FB Patric DiMarco WR Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, 1 WR needed TE Charles Clay, (Nick O'Leary restricted free agent) LT Dion Dawkins, Cordy Glenn LG Richie Incognito C Ryan Groy not returning starter but safe pencil in RG Vladimir Ducasse RT Jordan Mills Defense LDE Jerry Hughes LDT Adolphus Washington (starter?) RDT Needed LDE Shaq Lawson SLB Matt Milano MLB Needed WLB Lorenzo Alexander (starter?) LCB Tre'Davious White RCB Needed FS Jordon Poyer SS Micah Hyde Special Teams P Colton Schmidt K Stephen Hauschka LS Reid Ferguson KR Needed PR Needed

2 things at play here 1 guaranteed money due to injury 2 signing bonus money that is spread over the life of the contract

Who gives a crap that he was a first round pick!!! That pick is coming up on 3 drafts ago. Any moves need to be done to make the team better. Considering he is currently a starter on this team it would require a lot in return to make it worth while. I wouldnt want to take the chance on replacing him with a 3rd or 4th round pick. Not to mention even if traded he would carry way too much dead money to make it worth while. The only trade situation I see as worth while is for another current NFL player. It seems like too many are more caught up on the round he was drafted in 3 years ago than fielding at good team in 2018.

Rochester has an beautiful soccer stadium that is empty....

When the XFL first started it was too much of a side show WWF style, but as the season went on it was a old time no BS football style. I thought they were on to something and should have stuck with it. Gives us football nuts something to watch out of "football season" and gave some guys a chance to develop for the NFL. Its all good. I will be happy to see it return.

Kaep as a backup. No thanks to manziel until he puts one good season together up north.

McD is about building, and the process. This guy is a potential HOF player and seems well liked, plays hard and plays hurt. The Bills should issue a statement saying "at this time we have no interest in any contract change, Shady is a key piece of our team." Its always been said its hard to bring FA players in to Buffalo, this is a move that could help change that.

Thats my point. I dont see giving up a lot of draft capital to take the left overs. The team has too many needs. I would like to see the Bills as an attractive place that a proven QB wants to come too.

Cousins value has yet to be determined. My guess is it wont be as much and many are predicting.

Cleveland (0-16) .520 New York Giants (3-13) .531 Indianapolis (4-12) .480 Cleveland - from Houston (4-12) .516 Denver (5-11) .492 New York Jets (5-11) .520 Tampa Bay (5-11) .555 Chicago (5-11) .559 San Francisco (6-10)# .512 Oakland (6-10)# .512 Miami (6-10) .543 Cincinnati (7-9) .465 Washington (7-9) .539 Green Bay (7-9) .539 Arizona (8-8) .488 Baltimore (9-7) .441 Los Angeles Chargers (9-7) .457 Seattle (9-7) .492 Dallas (9-7) .496 Detroit (9-7) .496 Buffalo* (9-7) .492 Buffalo - The question is how far up can the bills get and who will be left. I see picks 1 and 2 being QBs so how much do you give up to take the 3rd best prospect? Plus with denver and the jets being right up there I see it being a tough deal to make.

At bare minimum the Bills need to bring in a blue chip guard. Not necessary because Ducasse is that bad, but Icog is getting old.. Could be a drafted player or a free agent. The reality is no O-line will be all pro-bowlers, but got to have a couple of standouts.

Your right, great point but "every" was a bad choice of words. 4 out of 5 would have been air tight!!! lol

He had 160 more yards this year..... If you cant see the trend of what happens to production when TT throws the ball to a WR or TE, you have to be too blind to watch the games anyway. Mathews is a solid WR as Darby is a solid CB so considering the Bills netted a 3rd in the trade they did well.

Mathews was a very good player and the 3rd round pick, Bills won that trade all day long. Problem was TT was throwing the ball to him, how would you expect him to shine. TT is a WR killer, every WR that has left has had their production go up and any incoming has gone down.

Sammy played in 8 games last year... Woods played 13 last year and 12 this year to get 168 more yards Flash played in 15 games last year but had 531 more yards this year. Clay played in 15 games last year and 13 this year. Hogan this year had about the same production in 9 games as he did with TT in 16 games So saying TT didnt have receivers to throw to doesnt add up. Everyone who leaves becomes more productive. Lastly and most note worthy TT took a pay cut to stay with the Bills. If any other team thought he was the answer TT would have told the Bills to pound salt.