Tim Tindale

The Bills led the NFL in attendance each year from 1990-93, an amazing feat for the league's third-smallest market. And fans have continued to cram into Ralph Wilson Stadium despite cold, windy conditions. http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2000/01/20000124/No-Topic-Name/The-Best-And-Worst-NFL-Fans.aspx ... that's why I said "attendance was 'fantastic'". Hard to be better than leading the league in attendance four years in a row.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional playoff game 79.5K attended... Championship game in Cincy only 59K attended. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional playoff game 77.1K attended, Championship game 80.3K attended http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional playoff game 80.2K attended, Championship game 80.3 attendedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Buffalo_Bills_season: Wild game game 75K+ attended after they got pounded in Houston and Kelly got knocked out in Week 17. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional game: 61K attended, Championship game (which I attended): 76K attended and people stood the whole game. You can see the attendance of every game (home and away) in each of the links - playoffs and regular season. Nearly every game I see is 75K-80K in the regular season. It's worth noting that the attendance is meaningfully higher at home than the games on the road, which reinforces the large stadium/small market phenomenon. The data is there everyone to draw their own conclusions...

I believe at 80K capacity, Rich Stadium was the second- or third-largest stadium (LA Coliseum was bigger and I believe Giants Stadium was close) and the second-smallest fan base. What makes it remarkable is the calculation of what % of the population in a 60-mile radius actually had to attend the game to sell it out each Sunday.

I'm pretty sure we hold the single-season attendance record in the NFL (set in 1991). I think I just read that somewhere. I'm not sure where the "trouble filling seats" comes from. Attendance was always fantastic during the Super Bowl years and we had one of the biggest stadiums in the league.

What's wrong with you guys? That is hilarious stuff. Almost real life art in its irony. The only time we've "posterized" anyone in 14 years. Makes it hysterical to me.

I believe the line in Vegas was 6.5 wins for the Bills to start the year.

I agree with the initial post. I read it to get a good laugh after a win... Bills' fans have lost patience for baby steps-type improvement. It's amazing we're 3-4 given the injuries and the fact that we are on our 4th qb. Everyone wants Hackett's head, yet we're one of two teams (Broncos) that have scored over 20 points in every game. Love this team - more guts than the fans, which is pretty cool. Can't even remember the last time we've won a road divisional game...

It is akin to asking about breathing - never thought about it, never will. I just do it. Being a Bills fan stopped being a conscious decision at birth.

Boooo... This comment sucks. It's far too sane and rational for this board.

I love seeing how many people on the board think the Cowboys will win. It's literally always a good sign... Bills 28-17 over the Cowboys. Jackson, like Lynch last week, runs at will and wears down the Cowboy defense. Bills double Dez Bryant with Austin out. Bills again in first place with the tiebreaker over the Pats, after they pound the Jets.

I wish when you typed, you kept your fingers on the home row keys more often.

This thread is a laugh. Brady threw 4 picks in their loss to the Bills and is having a lousy game against the Cowboys. I doubt Boston is complaining about their lack of a franchise quarterback. Fitz has had injuries across his OL and has lost 3 of his top 5 WR's since the preseason (Evans, Jones, and Parrish). This team is light years ahead of anything we've had in Buffalo for well over a decade. We're a top 5 offense that puts up 20+ pts every game. We don't have an issue on offense and especially qb. Give it a rest. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL and we have two road losses to winning teams by under 7 points each. This year has been a lot of fun and Fitzy is a big part of the resurgence. How about enjoying the ride... By the way, didn't we under-spend the cap by 20MM+ this year. We've way overachieved, especially given the injuries.

I don't know what is more shocking - the rumor or that people think it's a terrible deal for the Bills. It's like getting a rent-a-#1 WR (or even #2) for a special teamer. It's not even a real debate.

All i know is that I felt less miserable reading this silly message board when we were losing. We're like beaten puppies. When I master gives us a treat, we think it's poisoned. I'm looking for virtual high-fives, not 73 reasons why we are going to suck next week. Wait, no, next week. Wait, no, next week... repeat until miserable.

27-10 Bills cruise.

According to rotoworld.com, McGee has already been declared "out" for Week 4.

Wonder what the odds are that the Bills sign a veteran corner off the waiver wire given McGee and Williams are both out. That leaves the Bills 4 healthy corners - McKelvin,Florence, Rogers, and Corner (who they cut in training camp). Anyone read an update on this anywhere?

Except that Spiller picked up the blitz on that Nelson TD on the last drive.

I had it last year and it was bad, but was hoping that it was my laptop. Obviously not.

anyone have a link to an internet link for the game. This PS3 feed is dreadful.

Johnny White does look a little Marshawn Lynch-esque. Looks like he wants to hit someone when he hits a hole.

Just because a team blew first round money on a qb, it doesn't necessarily follow that these qb's are "elite" and/or "franchise". By that logic, we should have let JP Losman quarterback the Bills for next decade. And, Jay Cutler and Mark Sanchez are hardly either; they both benefit from a defense that can take over games. Sanchez has more ints than tds in his career. Cutler is one year removed from 26 ints and had nearly identical stats to Fitzy in 2010. I'm obviously guessing here, but I think fans from both cities tolerate these guys, but have no illusion that they are "franchise qb's". If so, then I'm not clear what a franchise qb is (apparently, it's just one that gets drafted in the first round, but doesn't even have to make a Pro Bowl...). In my opinion, there are a very small handful of transcendent qb's who don't need "help" from a strong running game or front seven. I think that handful is Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers (at least he appears to be developing into one). Incidentally, I don't put Roethlisberger on that list, but I would have considered putting Kurt Warner there (another non-first rounder) not that long ago. I have no idea what Roethlisberger would do with a weak running game and/or defense. The Steelers missed the playoffs last year with a spotty running game. I'm not convinced he can carry a team on his own consistently. Anyway, ironically, only one of the four qb's I consider "transcendent" were top ten picks and only two of them were even first rounders. So, the conclusion that we HAVE to spend a top five pick on a quarterback because this year's playoffs provide plenty of evidence for the merits of doing so... I think that's an incorrect interpretation of the facts.

I think the Jets are proving that a franchise qb is a luxury, but not a necessity, in order to be a bonafide playoff team. If you can run and stop the run, you can beat even Manning and Brady in the playoffs.

Wood was a four-year starter at Louisville at center and a third-team All-American at the position his senior year. The Bills moved him to guard his rookie year (last year). I'm not at all surprised he's catching people's attention at the position that he's probably most comfortable with.

I'd be more worried about not having a Hall of Fame QB that is capable of carrying a team to a title if we weren't 32nd in the league against the run. Marino, Tarkenton, Jim Kelly, and Warren Moon never won Super Bowls, but Jeff Hostetler, Doug Williams, and Trent Dilfer have. This obsession over having Hall of Famers at QB as our only chance to win a Super Bowl... let's build a defense and an offensive line that would actually enable us to make the playoffs once a decade and we can kick our 2:1 TD/INT ratio QB to the curb after.