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I think Friggin' Lonnie bit his own tongue on this one. The GOAT of TSW whipping boys.

For as good as the Bills secondary was statistically I think it was probably understood around the league that the Bills biggest fundamental weakness come playoff time was their inability to really excel at man coverage in situations when they needed to be able to at least mix it up a lot better against high octane playoff opponents. They've been fish in a barrel in the secondary in their exit game each of the past 4 seasons. That reflects on Butler directly.......not so much on Babich or Washington. I think McD actually might be seen as less culpable by some because he tried to integrate a true man cover CB by signing off on the Elam selection. You'd presume Butler would find good work but after the run of speedboat jobs against his secondary you wonder what the appetite is for a guy whose game might not be seen as fully adaptable. Williams is moving to LB. And I wouldn't be surprised if he ran like a 4.7 or something at the combine. He plays slow. Violent but not fast. He isn't a starting NFL safety, IMO and drafting safeties early is like drafting RB's........they'd BETTER be very good or you wasted a pick.

Yeah I think we figured that out when you expressed how much you hoped he got put in a better situation. Like anyone is really personally invested in that trust fund baby if they don't want him on their team. 😂 But let me warn you.........Buffalo is apparently no place to try to develop a young QB.........the general consensus is that Patrick Mahomes would have never made it in Buffalo! And I'd also add that there shouldn't be a 3rd QB on the 53 man roster. So backup or bust for Wilson. Need that extra spot for depth at other positions given that there is likely to be a bit less quality depth due to cap constraints.

I liked the part where Johnson said that it was unacceptable that they weren't better with all that talent on offense. Bad OL, 1 WR and no QB...........but yeah.......ALL THAT talent. 😂 Woody should have reviewed Saleh's receipts and fired him after the 2022 season............but I'm glad he didn't.

You were one post too late. But substance abusers unite! Not fair you guys getting lumped with other types of abusers.

And to the contrary..... I was pretty confident he'd just be an "ok" starting QB that would keep his team in QB purgatory..........which is what he's become. I don't particularly like him.........his underdog story is offset by his assh*le dog stories(which people now forget)..........and don't really care that he's doing well but do hope he gets a nice fat contract from Tampa so another team gets themselves in cap hell and maybe we can take advantage of that.

He was an excellent player for the Canes but not sure he will test well or pass the medicals everywhere. Seemed like he was held together with chewing gum and popsicle sticks last season. Always getting hurt and having to come off the field for a few plays. He's a gamer but not sure he's coming into the league ready for 10 years of punishment either. More instinctive than physically gifted. I wouldn't use a second round pick on him. He may become Micah Hyde 2.0 someday because he has those elite instincts............but so may some 5th or 6th rounder in THIS Bills defense. Very deep DB class.

I suppose that could be aimed at McD but I assume that's in response to Matt Fairburn saying there was friction between Butler and Elam on the SHOUT podcast. Seems more like a "I'm a great DB coach" post than a "why wasn't I made DC" post.

I'd say decrease. Williams was a massive underachiever. Some of the stuff you get away with in college just won't fly in the pro's. The least surprising thing I saw in the Senior Bowl was Williams face masking a RB to the ground. Dumb as a box of rocks.

Yeah Butler was long seen as the heir apparent at DC. I assume he wasn't going to stay around after he got passed over.

Yeah he's known as being a hard a$$ in an age when players get coddled............which of course, doesn't help you much as a recruiter. Maybe not having the recruiting responsibility will make him easier to work with. Sad to see John Butler go but figured that would happen once he got passed over for Bobby Babich jr.

As a Hurricanes fan I was glad to see him go when I saw the headline. Later found out he was going to the Bills. 😂 He just wasn't pulling his weight as a recruiter. He could turn out to be a great coach for the Bills........he came to Miami well regarded........he just did the worst recruiting job of any position coach on staff and that aspect has only become more important in recent years. What I'd look for is the Bills to maybe gain a little scouting edge on late round DB's..........he has recruited a lot of these guys(mostly unsuccessfully) in this draft class while at West Virginia/Georgia/Miami.

Yep it's coming full circle. The grumpy old men of TSW won't pay for Bills content...........but fortunately they will be able to read about the results and transactions every morning on TSW. "For chrissake the Bills traded Bullfrog! The only guy they got left for 4 eyes Schottenhoffer!".

Do it Jerry. The entertainment value would be great. Meatball McCarthy and Rex. Could've been the HC matchup in SB XLV if the Jets didn't come out flat after the win in NE in the divisional round.

It's a subjective take. Turnovers are massive and change games and seasons. Realistically, White can't actually cover Hill or Waddle so system/plan and pass rush were the biggest keys to his success that day. If you'd have told me Greg Rousseau would end up with 15 sacks after that day too I'd have believed you. It was the "everything came together" game of the season for the Bills defensively. But also Douglas game isn't all "splash". He's more rugged/physical, durable(obviously) and likely more versatile than White at this point and is an active locker room leader(White is more a "by example" type). The most compelling part of the arguments against keeping White though are the relative depth of the room and ease of finding starting quality DB fits in this defense thru later picks. And this is all assuming that the achilles injury doesn't totally finish him off as a cover man. Not a lot of good examples of older CB's bouncing back well from this. Recently, Nik Needham was a nifty slot guy until he tore his in 2022 and it took him 12 months to get back and then he was ineffective the rest of the 2023 season. With that injury at White's high mileage I think you kinda' have to ASSUME he's not going to be right next year, if ever. The fact that his sorta' full recovery from ACL tear turned into a two offseason affair doesn't bode well for this rehab.

My biggest concern really is that the Bills would go into a draft that has excellent quality early and potentially good depth late at WR/OL/DB and instead of leaning into those strengths they try to reach for immediate need at DT and DE early........positions I view as weak this year, personally. That's a recipe for disappointment. That's how you end up starting a draft with depth players and finishing with depth players. Retaining Von is a risk. I think he's probably 50/50 to be worth the $6M or more this year because that doesn't buy you much in free agency at edge and they got squat on the roster behind he and Rousseau. I think they could get pretty close to what Tre White could bring coming off a torn achilles(an underrated CB killer) for close to league minimum via Christian Benford. Then draft a future starter or 2 in the secondary on day 3. I don't know where they are getting solutions at DE.

Yeah I see your point, they could just roll with Kameron Kline at RDE and be fine so long as Tre White can keep that slouch Benford on the bench. DE in the Bills system is the position where physical talent is the most important. No defense asks DE's to have any broader of a skillset in order for the defense to succeed. Very hard position to fill with impact. Is Miller totally washed or does his recovery just extend into a second offseason like White's ACL recovery did? I don't know but if you are gambling on upside at a position in the Bills defense DE is that position. I don't have any problem moving on from either player if I know the replacements are at least going to allow the defense to remain a strength. But November 2022 Von Miller would be much more valuable than September 2023 Tre White. That part is not disputable.

Who do you replace Von Miller with at DE? Tre is a zone system boundary-only CB with speed, quickness and(of course) durability concerns. He's not physical enough to play slot like Taron or move to safety. I know you've never felt Douglas was a starting NFL CB but that's pretty contrary to popular belief and production proof.......Benford and Elam return.........and the draft is much deeper at CB than it is at DE.

I remember the first time I heard the name McConkey playing for Georgia and........also being a WR...........I just assumed he was related to former NY Giant WR and Buffalo native Phil McConkey (Canisius High grad) who starred in the Giants first SB win. Tracked a little young to be Phil's son but figured must be a nephew or cousin or something. After never hearing anything about it on any broadcasts I finally looked it up in 2022 and apparently they are not related. Not a common name and to both be receivers......

Yeah they really can't just move on from Diggs or Miller without big consequence. But the highlighted is like saying that the concept of "currency" was created to put people in debt. The want for things you can't afford creates debt. The salary cap was DESIGNED to make it so every team has the same buying power as their league partners........it's certainly NOT designed to be kind to highly-paid under-performing players.........it's designed to create spending balance and punish careless spending.

He wasn't even decent except for for some very limited stretches really. He was supposed to be a stud starting pitcher when he came up with the Twins and had good a strong arm that kept getting him chances.......but his fastball was straight as an arrow. I was always delighted to see him come in against the Yankees. That said, the guy loved baseball and kicked around the minors and independent leagues for a LONG time after his major league career was over. Every time I've seen him in relation to something Patrick is doing he has that familiar addled manor you see in old drunks. That's probably why you don't see a lot of him.

Beane tried to get Reader in free agency but he chose Cinci. Denico Autry is another guy they tried to get in UFA but failed. If TN decides they want to get younger there I could see the Bills pursuing Autry in UFA again because he could give them a combination DE/3T. I'd think the cap healthy Titans would retain him coming off an 11.5 sack season but at age 34 sometimes teams turn their back on those guys.

I don't think Rosemary Jackson(as Charles Davis hilariously called him) is getting to 245.

I think for the most part Bills fans are focused primarily on getting an X receiver early to replace/upgrade on Davis. While Burton can do that.........he has good speed and tracks the ball well and has good arm length........ his height and lack of an extra gear at that size would be my concerns as the primary deep threat. How many times do we see JA17 hurl a flat deep ball and the receiver just doesn't have the length or extra burst to get to it? His raging personality is also concern, as you noted. For those thinking about S/LB James Williams from Miami........similar issue. Williams rarely went a game where he didn't do about 5 things that could have drawn a conduct penalty. The egregious facemask penalty in the Senior Bowl was just James being James.