BADOLBILZ

Ok so you were thinking in your mind that the Bills really needed WR help......but were just trolling the board with your running sarcasm toward the mention of it? You literally had a routine down mocking people about "boundary" WR's. Those jokes didn't age well.

Gilliam had a brutal day. He missed a number of blocks in limited opportunity. He had one good block.........and got rather unfairly flagged for holding on it........which in large part turned what looked like a certain TD drive into a FG. But when you suck at blocking and finally execute one I suppose it could seem suspicious. I never blame refs for a result, you always have chances to make other plays and overcome bad calls.........but this was a particularly lopsidedly called game, IMO. Just a lousy crew of officials that I hope we don't see again. But I actually think the steady supply of adversity helped get them out of their funk and remain focused. Officiating was part of that.

Some people blame some big hits in the GB game........you blame the elbow injury..........the reality is that they are both tied to inefficiencies in the passing game due to problems with the WR corps. The Jets game was a particularly bad day for the WR corps which put the Bills in a late game predicament that lead to the arm injury. I am shocked that you don't admit that the WR corps is a problem. Shocked, I say! (what a dork)

Yeah that was a terrible ending but it wasn't fated. Just a dumb player named Daryl Porter doing what dumb players do. That's why I am not a fan of Lil' Dummy McKenzie getting big snaps for this team.

Not for me. If the Browns had recovered I am still expecting a stop there.

No, I've been very consistent in my takes that the Bills might be able to muscle their way to a SB win because they have the deepest and most invested-in defense in the NFL. But I consistently pointed out that the achilles heel of the team was their declining WR position. You and @eball were among the group that insisted that the Bills were great at WR and that suggestions otherwise were not only wrong but just absurd. Those take looks pretty stupid now. Allen has imposed his will offensively this season..........but it hasn't been pretty.......he's beat up and has looked diminished as a passer after taking a lot of physical punishment........and they are once again trailing in their division late in the season when they were a prohibitive favorite. Being the 5th seed right now is OK..........but we all know that expectations were much higher.

When was that? The Bills have had a handful of years where they have been truly lousy in the past 35 years. They were usually mediocre when they were not good. You aren't mediocre playing with starters that couldn't be reserves on "other teams". It's like you "didn't live thru" making the playoffs 10 times in 12 years with one of the best rosters in football.

You were one of the people who didn't think they needed WR help. How do you feel about that now?

They signed a distressed product at WR in Crowder who was only worth $2M on the open market because of mounting injuries (and then he got injured) and they drafted a WR in the 5th round. That was a couple steps back from having Sanders and Beasley. Which was already a step back from the trifecta of Diggs plus younger John Brown and Beasley in 2020. The roster is otherwise fine but they have dropped the ball at WR the past TWO offseasons. Not just this one.......but this one more notably than the last. It's been costly........as Allen is having to play Superman to keep the ball moving. 2 years ago he looked like a guy who might play 15 years at a high level. He only had to run for 400 yards and was winning from the pocket. Now he is taking a f#cking beating most weeks having to run the ball to sustain drives because his WR corps has tumbled from top 3 in 2020 to middle of the pack.

I actually loved the way they used their timeouts on the final drive of the first half to prevent a "rushed" situation because the Bills offense OFTEN struggles with composure when rushed. There have been a lot more mistaken-laden finishes in close games than not. It's one of the reasons I am so "pro" aggressiveness with this offense during the entire game. They can win some close games.......they did it in KC and Baltimore this season.......but being big in the clutch is not a strength of this offense.

So I'd say 70% of Bills fans who are also MLB fans are Yankees fans. It's a massive number. It would be a much higher % if so many weren't Canadians. And 99% of people haven't reached the pinnacle of their careers so your 90% of complainers implies the opposite of your intention. Maybe someone who identifies as "Dopey" isn't the one to explore such broad takes? It just sounds like you don't like people.

No we don't know if his knee is still bad..........because he hasn't been forthcoming about that. We just know the team says he's not injured any longer. When times were good he craved attention and adoration. Not really surprising that people are perplexed by being ghosted by him now. If this were the QB I think there would be a lot less protesting/shaming about that from people though. Even you would want answers. I'm not desperate to get him back in the lineup like some.........he's not a cure all.......Tyreek Hill made him look like a UDFA in the 2020 AFCCG so it's not a given that he is going to change results of big games but I absolutely understand why people want answers if he's not going to play. It's a business.

I was sold on him as the top CB in the 2017 draft but I knew he didn't have the wheels to run with the fastest WR's and scheme fit would matter. So there has always been a little over-hype on him. An island, he is not. He's class valedictorian smart though so he has excelled in the Bills cerebral pass defense. Those kinda' smarts can also lead to players making personal decisions about playing that really hurt the team. I'm not worrying about year 8 or 9 with him because he could pull a Patrick Willis by then. If you aren't compelled to get back on the field...... you are a wild card.

Well last year they DID have one of the easier schedules in football. This year, it's been tough sledding and their entire division is in playoff position right now. Fact.......good teams play better red zone defense. Add in that they have notably lesser personnel in the WR corps than 2021............McKenzie is an absolute joke as a starting slot receiver..........and Josh Allen making inexplicably crazy decisions in the red zone.......and it's not so criminal of the OC, in fact. IMO the Dorsey and Daboll experience has been very similar. But there haven't been the full game flops like last year. Which points to original game plans by Dorsey being better than Daboll last year.

I think it's actually myopic to be fine with your best defensive player throwing away a prime year in a SB window to worry about years 8 and 9(2024-2025). He's a CB. And he ain't a freak athlete like Patrick Peterson. Year 8 or 9 might not be high level CB play anyway. Might be safety time by then. White might not be "one to dog it" but he also nearly made the decision to opt out last year..........which was made by very few NFL players and some of them were dogass players like Star Lotulelei who really didn't want to play anyway. His commitment to winning might be less than ideal from the perceived best player on your defense if you want to get home field and win a SB. That can be true without being "one to dog it" which implies no commitment.

Daboll pulled a Mike Mularkey. He took a step back after surprising the league by having a QB unexpectedly look like an MVP candidate one year(Kordell Stewart)........and then after that notably lesser performance with the star QB than the prior season he got a gig anyway by connections. Mularkey got his thru Donahoe to bring Steelers football to Buffalo and Daboll in a package with Schoen to try to replicate McBeane's success. Wyche, Mularkey and Daboll are all the same type of wicky-wacky play callers(as Wyche was called by many around the league). When it works it's great. But inconsistency from year to year was a hallmark.

Late October 1997 there was a huge blizzard in Denver and many of the Broncos had to be transported to the airport late at night via snowmobile for a game in Buffalo the next day. They had almost no rest and trampled a good Bills defense, including Ted Washington having a career year, on the ground for 225 yards. No excuses.

I thought I responded to this hyperbole but apparently not. I didn't attack the poster "for being on antidepressants"...........I said that I didn't take the repetitive and unsolicited attacks toward my post and others from said poster seriously because of it. That's another thing you won't see from me is just telling people "this is the worst post ever" for the 20th time this year just because you have an opinion I disagree with. I'm not on that out of control rollercoaster of emotion like some of you dog kickers. You lied in the post above but even then I've given you the dignity of a reasoned response.

Well then your point is also that the OC is entirely inconsequential. You can't expect no more than 32nd because the QB isn't excellent and then give substantial credit when the QB is. That's too simplistic. I know there are those offensive minds that are better than others despite deficiencies at the QB position. And Daboll has never proven to be one of them. And there isn't evidence to the contrary.

There is a casino in the stadium district.

Well they did go from a high octane, efficient passing offense in 2020 with Josh Allen throwing for 8 yards per attempt and nearly 70% completion and only 400 some yards rushing to a disjointed one that needed Allen to run the ball like crazy to be good against decent teams. We are accustomed to that now.....Allen might rush for 1,000 this year...........but it was a BIG step backward for Daboll and they had some terrible games against an easy schedule. Wouldn't be surprised if McDermott wasn't happy about that turn of events.

Fielding 32nd ranked offenses isn't pathetic? Has there been a worse track record thru 3 NFL OC jobs than Brian Daboll? And his offense in the first half in Buffalo in 2018 was threatening to be worse than any of them.........they were on a pace to be the lowest scoring NFL offense since the merger. It's true that Daboll needed a modern day John Elway to elevate him from an impotent play caller to effective. I'm not saying he's not a good offensive mind NOW.........he's been given a wealth of opportunity to grow as a coach...........but it's not like there haven't been OC's who have been able to field at least competent offenses without a good QB. Even the sorry drought Bills had guys like Chan Gailey and Greg Roman.

They struggled ONCE? They lost OTHER games where they scored just 10, 15 and 16 in falling to 7-6. The Bills offense this season has been more productive against a better schedule..........they've not had a scoring performance as low as those 6, 10, 15 or 16 Daboll doozies yet...........despite Allen turning the ball over like crazy in the red zone this year when he had rarely done so the prior 3 seasons. I don't wish Daboll ill but he is getting fellated like 2016 Ben McAdoo here.

Meh, first world problems. Beasley didn't get any slack on the $100K+ fines he was assessed because he drew attention to himself with his social media griping about covid protocols. He put a target on his back. If the Bills got caught letting him get away with anything they were likely to be punished. He alienated HIMSELF. As for Daboll........he engineered the 6 point performance in Jacksonville a year ago this week and a number of other stinkers last year. He wasn't above reproach for the team struggling to 7-6. Dorsey came into this season seeking to become the first rookie OC to lead a team to a SB win since Mike Holmgren back in 1989. And Holmgren was taking over a 49ers offense that had already won 3 SB's.......including the season before. If Dorsey is a work in progress then he is in good company because it's unusual for first time OC's to be their best right away. Daboll himself was simply pathetic at 3 prior stops as an NFL OC and lousy in his first year in Buffalo too.

I don't think Irony is the term you are looking for but I know what you are saying. I certainly have the techniques for handling negative discourse pretty well down. As one TSW user says at our tailgates........I return the knife and then twist it for good measure. Works like a charm. Never even considered quitting TSW let alone announcing it like a *****. Others effectively handle perceived attacks by not ever returning even the slightest negativity. That's great for some too and it's very funny watching Scott work people with that paddle. Leave the instigator unsatisfied. JW also had the block feature at his disposal here. You aren't obligated to answer to anyone. He could have blocked @LeGOATski but he wanted to take his ball of secrets (that he was never going to tell anyone on TSW) and go home.