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Well compared to the other 5 WR that went in round 1 in 2015 he has been on another level entirely. Diggs was the only elite WR who came out of that draft. Ten years later we know exactly who these guys were as players..........and being critical of Cooper for not being elite or more consistent NOW is really pointless. What he is now is big play threat on the boundary they picked up for a 3rd round pick and cost them about $700K. It's not a mystery to me why he hasn't been better. I've never been a big fan of his. He doesn't have the same compete level that guys like Hopkins and Diggs had. Not an alpha personality. THAT is why he's on his 4th team. On some teams being a top 15 WR1 is not enough. And getting $20M to be that was too much for them. That wouldn't have been enough for Buffalo in 2020 when they traded for Diggs. The skill he brings plus the cost/price have been a great fit in 2024 though.

Amari Cooper is inarguably one of the top 6-7 players picked #4 overall in the last 25 years.......so you are wrong about that. That's a feels thing not a real thing.

Who are the "big name" WR's that you compare him to? Cooper has never been elite. He's never finished higher than 8th in the NFL in receiving yards in his decade in the league. Guys like Jordy Nelson and Kenny Golladay, just to name a couple of many, have had higher ranks. The question isn't whether he disappears it's when has he ever produced enough to warrant being a "big name"? When you get drafted early and then play for Dallas you will have a spotlight on you but it's a little late in the process of a career where he's averaged about 900 yards per season to still act like any of that is relevant. He got a big contract from Dallas because of timing........but so did Mike Williams with the Chargers. If people are worried about Cooper demanding big money they don't know how free agency works. He's going to be 31 next season. He's in a category like post-PED suspension DeAndre Hopkins now. Those guys aren't/weren't getting $20M-$30M aav multi-year deals. Cooper gives the Bills that big play threat that they need on he perimeter. But Allen isn't great at the deep ball and has little margin for turning the ball over and 3-and-outs with the rookie Babich defense this season........so Cooper isn't going to get the targets he got with a deep ball specialist like Joe Flacco.

Daquan Jones only played like 15% of the Bills defensive snaps in 2023. Bernard was out there 93% and had a really good season.

Congratulations for accurately predicting that I wouldn't accept LESS than what you claimed was the norm and I took exception to. What's more, there is no context whatsoever to your stats. Cooper has never been considered a top 2 WR in the league like Hopkins or Diggs.......but for the sake of argument and to illustrate my point that your now upwardly adjusted stats aren't nearly as compelling as you want them to seem...........I pulled ONE random, corresponding mid-career season from DeAndre Hopkins and Stef Diggs to see how their best 4-5 games impacted their totals. 2018. In their 4 "best" games Hopkins and Diggs produced 41% and 48% of their receiving yardage, respectively. Oh my........it seems those numbers track with most of the years you claimed that Cooper was some kind of distant outlier among high producing WR's, don't they?

Ok so NOW you are saying that in just ONE season(2017) 40% of his production came in a few(3) games. Like I thought..........hyperbole that wouldn't hold up to actual statistical analysis. Amari Cooper isn't an elite WR1. He is a good WR1 who specializes in making big plays downfield. That's why he has a career 14.2 yards per reception and is second all-time with four 200 yard games. If you need a guy to soak up targets, he's not the guy. But the Bills don't need that. They need a legit threat to put up 6 when isolated against CB1. That's him.

I've been following the draft closely for a very long time........and I would say it was very unlikely that Carter would have lasted another full round plus. He isn't a great athlete but you don't usually see that combination of size, requisite ability, motor and great intangibles in a DT get to the late 4th. He was 60-100 range prospect all thru the process, IMO. But the trade winner will come down to whether Coleman is better than Worthy. I think Coleman will have the better career based on what we've seen of the two of them this season. Coleman has been better than advertised at FSU........Worthy has been a bit lesser than expected. But time will tell.

Also currently on the Dolphins payroll. That would be a non-starter for an old fan.

Gabe Davis too!

Well then show us that career statistical analysis you did that proves your point and that you aren't fabricating facts. If you want to cross over from irrational homer posting emotional takes for thumbs into the reality based discussions where what you say has some factual basis you have to use facts(in this case, stats) and not just your feels. I notice in your similar criticism of Cooper you didn't note that you didn't note that Shakir has had 3 very low production games in the last 4. Including dropping a number of catchable down field passes.

What rush? You saw the title and CHOSE to open the thread. The more obvious question is why not? NFL personnel departments do this year round so there will inevitably be fans who will as well. Roster building is a year round topic for the kind of Bills nerds who would post on a message board. Of the hundreds of Bills fans who live near me and I interact with regularly here in WNY I am the only one I know of who posts on TSW. Even some pretty obsessed ones who have strong opinions. This is a VERY small group of Bills information enthusiasts. It's all just entertainment......has no more real meaning than that........if it doesn't constitute entertainment to you then just don't click on it.

Amari Cooper had 8 games of 89 or more yards receiving in 2023 in 15 games played. So 8 of his 15 games played were ABOVE his per game average. It's entirely disingenuous to imply that he traditionally just has "a few big games" and the rest are "meh to invisible". You continue to just make false narratives around stats you just made up.

Why are there always a few people who feel the need to inform the OP that they don't want to talk about a topic if it isn't of interest to them at the moment? Whether it's looking ahead at the schedule or the offseason, whatever. It's presumed that if you don't respond you don't care. So is it superstition? Do you think you are part of the team and shouldn't be looking ahead? A general lack of understanding that this is all just meaningless discussion for entertainment purposes?

Grogan took a lot of blindside hits and that neck kept getting longer with each whiplash. He was held together with chewing gum and popsicle sticks at the time of that picture. https://youtu.be/EBf43TYJPLE?si=x48wDFLP5_hb7o4D

Yeah that was just a weird thread decision for a lot of reasons. Not the least of which is that teams with bad RT play have been winning SB's periodically for years. You can scheme around issues there. But also because Brown was so inexperienced and so athletic and his growth had been slowed by an injury the year prior. The guy played 7 man football in HS, barely played in college but started at RT as a rookie in the NFL and was decent. That was impressive, all things considered. He wasn't a player who should have been on any kind of thin ice with the fans. But some folks were unnecessarily impatient. I don't disagree about the contract though. That was a significant risk at a position where you don't need a stud player to succeed. RT is not really an edge/island position because they typically have a TE to help. And I thought Grable or even Gouraige might be able to step in next year for pennies on the dollar. But I've always believed in Spencer Brown and glad they have him. But there will be things they can't do because of that contract so time will tell if it was the right move. The extension starts next season.

In Houston, Settle is only asked to play the run if it's thru the gap he is diving thru. Sorta' reminds me of the role Kyle Williams had here for much of his career. Not the George Edwards DC year where they played a 3-4 and Kyle was maybe the worst NT I've ever seen but the years he was in 4-3 looks.

Yeah this is the thread you were talking about. Brown obviously improved as the season went on but the basic premise that he was the biggest problem in 2022 and then again at the start of 2023 was wrong. Saffold was the biggest problem in 2022. By A LOT. But the person you were talking about wanting to trade Spencer Brown was @NewEra.

Oh, I think it's primarily an X an O thing. This isn't a "defend every blade of grass" style of defense. It's "bend, don't break". It's "we do what we do, we don't make broad schematic changes for different opponents". And needing 5-6 DB's to execute what they want means that the DL has more run responsibility than some other defenses......to make up for the lack of LB presence. Which detracts from the pass rush potential. And I think it generally makes them a less physical, less violent defense.......which leads to those gashes in the run game etc.. This all makes it appear that the requisite talent just isn't there. I know it won't happen, but if this defense has another playoff meltdown McD really should just bring in a high quality veteran defensive mind to run a different version of this 4-2-5. 8 years in, this defense shouldn't still have the same vulnerabilities/issues. They should be benefiting from being able to stay in the same system. That's not what's happening.

All the Bills needed to complete their throwback 80's Patriots attire was a neck roll on QB1. "Hey, let's dress in red like teams our fans hate!" Better dead than red.

The moment that woeful throw landed I instantly looked back at Allen to see what happened and he was holding his arm above the wrist area as he ran off the field. He was struggling with it for quite a bit more than several minutes. He was still trying to shake feeling back in it before he went on the field for the last drive. He wasn't really doing that on the field though so I don't know what the tv camera's were showing.

Yeah it's always been Elway to me. Right down to the trajectory that they throw/threw the deep ball. He didn't run for yardage nearly as much but that was a time when QB's could get destroyed running the ball past the LOS. Randall Cunningham had a huge arm but that's about it as a passer. Inaccurate, long windup, couldn't read a defense to save his life etc.. But he could throw those Russell Wilson moon balls. They resuscitated his career in Minnesota with Randy Moss. Allen can't really throw those. Very different players, IMO. Cam Newton was very similar to Josh as a runner but he never had the arm talent Allen has. Not even at his best.

I've never been more psyched about an offseason acquisition in my life than when the Yankees traded for Rickey after the 1984 season. RIP Rickey.

Yeah, I thought the same thing when I saw it. I looked for it briefly online too but didn't find it right away so I figured it was new and would pop up at BFLO store or Lids something. I have a lot of these different "Griswold" style script Bills hats. Late 80's, early 90's designs. Some that I wore back in the early 90's.

This really surprises me. As in shape and self-involved as Rickey always came off I really would have figured him to live into his 90's or something. One of the 10 most talented players ever, IMO. Maybe even top 5. He left a lot on the table too. For those who don't follow baseball I would say he was like the Randy Moss of baseball.

That's your gut perspective. It's just not supported statistically. I think a highlight reel of big hits taken in 2024 would look markedly more violent than 2020. Don't you? I mean, he took two huge shots on scramble throws in that Lions game. And fwiw, the Daboll offense was actually very much about easy plays. The passing game was deep routes and comebacks. The comebacks couldn't have been easier throws for Josh. There were so many of those easy-button comebacks that Diggs and Beasley were taking a beating catching the ball flat-footed with their back to the defense. But the defense had to respect those throws in front of the sticks because the talent was there to torch any defense over the top. Especially prior to John Brown getting injured. Cooper is very good still but he's not close to 2020 Diggs All Pro level.