IronyAbounds

gee, maybe five wins against crap teams wasn’t the sign of a quality team.

I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet, but I think the last time the Bills returned an onside kick for a TD was in December 1999 against the Cardinals (Henry Jones did the honors). I was at that game and amazingly enough the final score of that game was also 31-21.

Maybe, maybe not, but it does appear that Pats' backups turn into pretty good QBs.

Hard for me to agree since aside from the Pats the Bills have only played the dregs of the NFL. 5 wins, none of them convincing, against teams with a combined record of 5-27. Before today I had the Bills as locks to win 9 games and almost locks to win 10. Now, I don't think there is any game left that is a high probability of a win. I'd say they are about 70% to make the playoffs given the easy schedule they have, but not too confident they will make it past the wild card game. The Eagles game is huge. If they can win that I will kick the confidence meter up a few notches.

What’s sad is I attended some of those Bill Miller games.

LOL, despite the fans? I didn’t know the fans played offense or defense.

Phew

ESPN has the Bills at a 61% win probability. Odd for the team trailing a team start of 4th quarter.

Wow, that drive ate up 10 minutes. Thank God they didn’t score.

They did

I should have read the information card before the game. I’m not sure where the emergency exits are on the bandwagon.

And less passing ability

I resemble that remark.

Hopefully past is not prologue. One difference this year is a comparatively easy schedule. Of course anything can happen, but there should be 2 wins against the Fins, and wins against the Jets, Redskins and Broncos to get to 9, which actually may be enough to at least make the playoffs considering how bad the AFC appears to be. If they can manage home wins against the Eagles and Ravens you get to 11, and perhaps even 12 against a Benless Steelers team. Unfortunately, even 12 wins is likely a wild card berth, and winning 3 games on the road is a daunting challenge to say the least. Ultimately it should be out to be a good season but I wouldn't lay money on even making the AFC Championship, let alone the Super Bowl. If they make it, it'll be the defense that carries them there.

It's kind of funny, Allen really hasn't played all that well but people point to his 9-7 record as a starter as evidence that he's a Franchise QB. Flutie had a 21-9 record as a starter and many Bills fan think he was a crap QB. Maybe Allen is great an Flutie sucked, or maybe its somewhere in between, but it's interesting that consistency has never been a hallmark of a message board (and I'm probably as guilty as the next guy).

Yeah, you kind of wonder how the teams Taylor led would have fared with this defense. Somehow I have to think the Bills would have made the playoffs each year.

Titans looking for a new FG kicker for next week, lol.

Which isn’t saying he won’t be in the future, but he clearly isn’t at this point.

Not when you consider how badly Brady has played the last two weeks.

I’m not one to blame the refs but that call on Milano was atrocious.

I find it amazing how easily people here make excuses for Allen. Is it that people are so desperate for the savior QB? He certainly isn’t any better than Manuel at the same point in their careers. Very odd.

I have to laugh at myself. I recorded the game because I had more pressing matters, but I start watching the recording and there are no announcers. Just crowd noise and other sounds from the field, including ref call and QB shouting. At first I thought may it was one of those announcer less games, them maybe a cable problem. In any event I watched the whole game that way (crowd was jacked all game), and didn't realize until after the game that my center speaker had come unwired. So, the lesson is if the game is being broadcast in 5.1 stereo, and you're sick of the announcers, just unplug the center speaker and it will be like you're at the game.

Not saying they are comparable, but I remember exactly this sort of thing being said about EJ Manuel. It's too soon to declare Allen a flop, just like it's too soon to anoint him the savior. I think at this point perhaps the best we can hope for is a Jacksonville like season with Bortles as QB where their defense got them to the AFC Championship game. Hopefully Allen gets better than Bortles eventually, but at this point a Bortles like career for him isn't out of the question.

Yeah, and it gave the team a chance to win. Just like it won the first three games. Even a below average game by the offense would carried the day today. Putrid, on the other hand, left the Bills a TD short.

I've said it before I'll say it again. This team will only go as far as the defense will take it. Today was one of the best defensive efforts I can recall, and an offensive performance that was absolutely putrid. Allen may turn out to be a franchise type QB, but anyone suggesting that is a certainty just hasn't been paying attention. His first half today was just north of a Peterman performance, and all three INTs were just bad throws on bad decisions. NE may have a good defense, but those throws were inexcusable. If the Bills win more than 8 games it will be because the defense holds steady. Just have to hope it stays relatively injury free.