starrymessenger

Like them or not, the strong majority of opinion on the Pats message board is that he's a disgrace to their uni and is done as a Patriot.

Just a guess but I wouldn't be surprised if the four of them went out to buy drugs and Lloyd was killed by a drug dealer. Ah and the other two just high tailed it out of there and kept quiet about it. If that's what happened not sure what charges AH might be facing. Commish is sure to get him tho.

How do you flush 40 million dollars down a toilet?

I'm confident that AH will be good to go in September. September of 2020 that is. Maybe. Stick a fork in him. With the whole world watching the cops in Florida will also have to investigate the earlier incident. While the "victim" may not have been cooperative while he tried to hit AH up for cash, he has now filed a claim that no doubt alleges facts supporting at the very least negligent use of a firearm and perhaps an outright battery. If the claim is supported by an affidavit of the complainant they are furthermore sworn to. If the cops don't get him, the Commish surely will.

Well you know I'm not sure all native Americans feel that way about it. ....zzzzzzzzz...

Well you see it's because I don't think they should be aggrieved. Judging from your comment I would say that you are nothing more than a speck in my rear view mirror.

If any native Americans are offended by the team name, simply put, they should not be. No offence is intended. As for "political correctness", I despise it. In many respects, the KKKs agenda was politically correct, for example temperance. Lots of crazy notions were politically correct in Germany in the 30s. Political correctness often has this element of coercion and oppression. To the politically correct, I would say "just get out of my face already". Changing the team name would involve a failure to recognize that society has in reality moved well beyond the attitudes and conventions that most of us would consider objectionable and unacceptable today. And for the outliers that remain anchored in the past, there is probably nothing that is going to change them for the better anyway. They have in any event been left behind and will eventually be no more than a speck in our rear view mirror. I'm Franco Italian, and I could care less if Jerry renamed his team the Dallas Degoboys or if the Red Legs became the Frogs Legs. I'm not offended by "Bills Mafia". Like the poet says " if the sun refuse to shine, I don't mind. If the hippies cut off their hair, I don't care".

The judge overreacted IMO. A stern admonishment followed by an apology, both of which occurred, would have sufficed. As for 85, for sure he is capable of behaving inappropriately relative to societal norms, and generally making poor decisions - for example having anything to do with that nutcase he married. But in my book he was and remains a good person, a very funny guy (albeit lacking in taste sometimes) and a (formerly) great wideout. If we can get 5 or 6 of his best years from any of our young receivers I'll take it - gladly.

I agree. And if that Bills team had managed to eke out a couple of championships, with Bruce's numbers otherwise staying the same, I doubt we would even be having the discussion.

Right. Earnie Shavers. It's wrong to go on like this on the Bills board, but I can't help it. He's one of my all time favs. With regard to his punching power Ali said "Earnie hit me so hard, he shook my kinfolk back in Africa". The great Larry Holmes " Earnie hit me harder than any other fighter, including Mike Tyson. He hit me and I was face down on the canvass hearing saxophonist Jimmy Tillis." Ron Lyle "hardest I've ever been hit: Earnie Shavers. The ground came up and met me. That's all I remember". James Tillis " Shavers hit so hard he turned horse pi$$ into gasoline. He hit me so hard he brought back tomorrow. When he hit me I was seeing pink rats and cats and animals smoking cigarettes.I was in the land of make believe." Now if only Kiko can hit like that!

I'll keep it short because not Bills related, but you're right. Short time line is likely the problem. Tyson may be the most devastating puncher in recent memory, but there were many others before him - Ernie Shavers, who was not a champion, Sonny Liston who was, George Foreman in his prime, etc...Mike also had quick hands, good footwork and technique, but he was a thug who could not fight from behind. Like most bullies he lost a lot of steam if his opponent got over his fear of him. He was a psychological front runner. Football, like boxing has an element of intimidation, but the best players are not thugs, even if some thugs are decent players, like Romanowski. Best heavyweight boxer ever? JMO, Joe Louis- M. Ali. Flip a coin.

Or because he stuck to Womack like an old fly on fly paper and when he finally got off the block Lacy hit him like a truck. That's Warmack. Fat fingers vs Ipad.

Yes. That has been said many times. Not what I was thinking though.

You're probably right of course. Somehow I still think of him as a great player without a position. Maybe that makes no sense.

Just think for a moment about the kind of offence NE runs with TB and then try to imagine Tim Tebow under centre, Hilarious, right? In Denver they completely overhauled their system to accommodate Tebow's skill set. They are not going to do that in NE. So if Tebow is going to play QB in NE it will likely be in short yardage situations, in effect a third down back with whatever scheme diversity might be added by a possible read option capability. Tebow is a pretty fascinating guy. Not only is he a great athlete, but he's a great football player too. Unfortunately for him their is no regular in line starting position for him to play at the level the game is played in the NFL. But I guess that Josh and Bill have the best shot at finding something useful for him to do.

I actually think this might be the outcome. Quite a turnaround for this franchise if it happens. EJs physical skills are extremely impressive. As are his intangibles. His ceiling is very high. But don't sleep on Kolb. He will be as good as the protection he will be afforded. Something more than the 2.3 seconds he got per sack in Zona.

Agree with all of this. Fun to discuss but hard if not impossible to draw meaningful conclusions comparing the greats of different eras. With respect to Ali/Tyson, nothing against Mike but anyone who fails to realize that Ali in his prime would have dropped him like a sack of potatoes knows nothing about the sport of pro boxing.

If he is signed and sticks Choice is probably out of a job, tho MO is a fullback and Choice has been pretty decent as a reserve running back.

Wouldn't mind MO at all. 5'10 225 ran a 4.48 40. Did a good job filling in for MJD last year. One of the best ST players in the league and a pro through and through.

Unfortunately, the kid is a lunatic. Nuff said.

Yeah and same for Jerome Simpson who may well be cut loose by Minny. Will be interesting to see how the Finns make out this year.

That team is a mess. Ivory has the potential to be a playmaker but he's very injury prone. Now this. And Sanchez needs a running attack in order to have a chance of being effective. They are headed for a five win season. Only downside - here comes Clowney!

When it comes to FA WRs history suggests that you are better off growing your own. That guy Meachum that everyone was slobbering over last year will probably wind up getting cut in San Diego.

I also think this means Geno starts sooner than later, maybe day 1. They probably made a mistake rushing Sanchez but Geno has played more than 16 games or whatever it was in college. On the other hand Geno seems emotionally fragile and he is playing in a shark infested snake pit, if such a thing exists. Should be fun to watch. I see the Jets winning no more than 5 games this year and drafting another q b in 2014.

Yeah I sort of got that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. Sent me reaching for rubber underwear. Oh well I'm sure MD is man enuf.