starrymessenger

I respect Marrone for taking this decision. It was the right thing to do but I'm sure it was not easy for him. Gives me some hope that he might be the right guy for a difficult job after all, despite his mind boggling pressers.

What you evaluate in looking at players is their ability to perform. It's a bottom line driven objective inquiry that is not and should not be personal. And the bottom line is that neither one of those guys can play the position well at this level of competition (even if they are both great as people).

Agreed, I have to think it will be tough sledding for a game or two He will have to shake off the rust.

Bust. Unless they make the change very soon, the only item of interest will be in seeing exactly how the train wreck plays out.

Thanks to Promo.

You can hardly wait for the Pegula era to begin. Not being from Buffalo and not being a big hockey fan I have no idea the kind of owner Mr Pegula is. How is he likely to react? Any thoughts.

Eli is a top shelf QB, definitely franchise and possibly elite when all the dust settles from his career. The initial responses to the OP just reinforced my impression that some folks are just flat out delusional.

My words were "a bunch of throws".

Hmmmm....let's see. One great throw out of what... Maybe 20 or 30 attempts? I saw Thad make some pretty good throws occasionally last year. Definitely big time, no question. Common sense suggests an outlier, or maybe just a fluke. Eli made consecutive multiple big time throws last night. That's what you won't get with EJ.

Skins D is terrible no question about that. Eli made a bunch of throws yesterday that you will never see EJ make. No question about that either.

2012 was a bad year to have to pick a cornerback

I'm nervous about this game, the more so because it is so important (to both teams). EJ seems to struggle against 3/4 Ds. Can't read the linebackers. Though Texan's run D has been porous, they have so far also had to defend the pass too. Facing EJ will be different, and easier, than facing RG3/Cousins, Eli or even Carr. As someone said earlier, just follow the Chargers blueprint. Take away EJs first read.and let the fun begin. If you are not a threat to throw the ball more than 5 yards downfield, your run game will struggle.

EJ has been playing football all his life. If he doesn't know how to throw a football by now he never will. He is not a natural. He is robotic. There is no fluidity to his reactions. And that has nothing to do with his physical attributes. It is a reflection of his mindset. In other words he is just not at home on an NFL playing field. An NFL QB needs to act like he owns it, even if he sometimes winds up taking his lumps. He's a great kid. I like his stat sheet. But he's not an NFL QB, or at least he sure as heck doesn't look like one that I've ever seen. A purely subjective impression to be sure, but strongly felt. Hope I'm wrong, but don't think so.

Assuming he's healthy of course - for our second next year.

I agree. When the apologists are on their heels they tell you that EJ only needs to be a game manager. Actually they are right, but the problem is that good game managers are hard to find and EJ probably lacks the ability to be a good game manager. Orton is a bona fide game manager and IMO could be very successful with the tools at his disposal. If the O can play well, the whole dynamic for the team changes and I believe we could make a run this year. With EJ under center it's just not happening this year and perhaps ever.

And we only need him to be a mediocre game manager, don't we?

I've got nothing against Teflon Tom. I don't disrespect him personally and I admire his many accomplishments. He was a great player and he's still a good QB IMO.

Time for Rivers to have a lousy game as well as his supporting cast. Turnovers galore. 3/0 here we come.

Oh yes it is happening. Just wait and see.

People always seem to forget what a HUGE step up in competition it is from college ball to the pros. Almost all first rounders are drafted as prospects, meaning on the basis of what is possible, not certain and for sure. Far from it. Way too early to close the book on any of these kids. Personally I think CK will be just fine given time. I love his attitude. He wants to be good. And he's one huge mofo.

Don't we always play them tough at home? Bills 27/17. Because we win the turnover battle.

Cruel yes but not unnatural.

You've got a point there. I was never disciplined physically by my parents but you would not believe how vicious their use of sarcasm was. I remember pleading with them to hit me instead. Of course had they tried that I would have just chased them with a kitchen knife or at least have gone mano a mano. Probably why they preferred sarcasm, hyperbole, litotes and other cruel figures of speech - that and they were both teachers.

Getting a starting O tackle with swing capability in the 7th round? Excuse me but that's totally ridiculous. I hope they change the reefer rules soon just in case.

I haven't seen the pics but I gather that they were such as to deeply offend the majority of those who have seen them. In dealing with AP I doubt though that a reasonable course of action can be taken by the Vikes, the league and the courts exclusively on the basis of this incident. If AP is the kind of twisted person who regularly beats his children because he's a drunk, derives lurid and sadistic pleasure from abusing the weak and defenseless, is a sexual pervert, needs a scapegoat etc...then I would be with Esiason who said yesterday that AP should never again see a NFL playing field. But it has been said by APs camp that this is not of frequent occurrence, that he loves his children and is a good father etc... If that is true, then while AP may have to reflect upon his behavior and improve it, to the suggestion that he should be banned or suffer some sort of disproportionate penalty I would say "let's be sensible, shall we" or, in football speak, "CMON MAN"! Let he who is without fault cast the first stone.