starrymessenger

I think Watkins was the best receiver prospect going into the draft. I still think he is the best and most complete player in a very good WR class. I think over time he will be a lot like and as good as Larry Fitzgerald. That's awefully good. Best offensive talent in the draft (Mack the best defensive talent). We're it to be done over however I would think one of the other blue chip receivers plus moving up for Bridgewater would have been better. All hindsight of course and there is no way the Bills were going to pick QBs in the first round in consecutive drafts. Should have, but would not have, either through want of skill in evaluating QBs, lack of courage in moving on from the prior drafts mistake, politics etc...

Jim Kelly or Fran Tarkenton? What's the point? When guys are that good each is in a class by himself. Just wish we could see someone like that in a Bills uni.

I agree. I saw on TV where wolverines are supposed to be intelligent animals. But if that's wrong I hope Doug takes his love child OC with him.

I agree. It's not fair. You have to look at his whole body of work...oh wait!!!

And what about the guy in the sky calling plays? Did you forget about him? You nailed it.

Agree 100% Doug is a dufus Sean is the real deal. A consummation devoutly to be wished.

Exactly right and well said. I would only add that Marrone is of the same mindset. They are the same guy. Makes me wonder how far ahead we would be without Nate if Doug is still around.

Orton needs a really good O-line. Give him one and he can be effective. We have a terrible line, esp crap for guards

Doug knows O. As in zerO.

Which half the time he doesn't even do. Good thing he's good at onside kicks. Oh wait...

Of course. High octane passing attack with no one to light the fire.

Whatever the reason exactly, they need a legit deep threat. Nothing against Goodwin but not sure he's the answer. This guy is as fast and is bigger. The guy replacing Corderelle P in Minny is also a similar looking undrafted player. Get a reliable deep threat and a decent pass catching TE and Bills passing attack is very high octane.

They absolutely need a WR who can stretch the field. Among other things.

4.31?

Good measurables. Burner. But can he run routes and how are his hands?

He's a great player, a complete player at his position sorta like Freddie. Took out two guys on Hogan's TD. Is a asset in what is essentially the run game (screens), is a possession receiver and can stretch the field. Best WR in a strong draft class. I don't pretend to know today whether giving up the extra first was the right move, but I'm confident in my own mind that he is totally outstanding and good enuf to have gone 1 overall.

Snyder ha ha what a comedic genius. I hope he fires Gruden only to see the good people of Washington hang him from a tree in 2015 as Robert continues to crap out. Heck we could hire Gruden as OC.

Gotcha. I was quibbling over your use of the word talent. I gather that you meant it to be read as synonymous with throwing a beautiful ball and being a terrific athlete rather than ability as a pro quarterback. Thanks for clarifying that for my benefit. In my view being a world class athlete is way down in the laundry list of things that make up a franchise quarterback, the things that RG3 badly lacks. It is, in effect, only a nice to have and to be lightly weighted as a factor in envisioning the total package.

Great post John. But I think you confuse "great athleticism" with "talent" (for playing the position). In a world where all the players are above average athletically, there is little if any correlation between the two. How many starting QBs are known principally for their athleticism? How many genuine franchise guys?

He has his detractors but IMO he's a fantastic football player and QB who I think will have a long and successful career. Unlike other QB "phenoms" (RG3 for example, maybe Kap or possibly even Cam) given his extraordinary, rare and peculiar skill set I don't think he ever gets " figured out " and neutralized (or otherwise diminished). So you wish we had drafted him? Well you will just have to console yourself with TJ Graham I guess, as doubtless you did when we drafted Whitner over Ngata, or Troup over Gronk.

R. Wilson is not a running QB. He is a very mobile QB who can buy time in or out of the pocket in order to keep plays alive and pass the football, which he does well while scrambling. He is the Fran Tarkenton of today. A scrambling QB. Of course he can gain yardage running when his receivers are covered, but running the football is otherwise not what he wants to do.

You are right to do so. Also CBS Sports. Gragg ran a 4.46 at the Combine. Gragg has very good measurables. If he hasn't been able to pressure Chandler as a receiving TE, it must be that he can't run routes and gain separation. We really don't know that MG, who is slower but still reasonably fast (ran a 4.65 at his pro day) can run routes either.

Good idea! Wish we had thought of that sooner. Would have avoided more than a decade of aggravation.

It's pretty obvious he can't handle it. He's not Steve Young. And even Young couldn't play as long as he did in today's NFL with all the concussions he suffered. What's worse is that in order to be effective RG3 ran a lot more his rookie year than the tougher Young ever did. And as a base offence the read option has pretty much gone the way of the wildcat anyway, though it has a limited place in some teams play books - Seattle, San Francisco. All he had to do at Baylor in Art Briles system was throw to wide open and talented receivers. It doesn't work that way in the pro game, and before we say Chip Kelly bear in mind that although his system may be QB friendly, it actually asks the player to do a lot. RG 3 cannot execute the way that Sanchez did the other day. He doesn't see the field, can't read a defence, doesn't go through his progressions, can't make the right decisions, holds onto the ball etc..He's pretty much a useless player. Just another world class athlete who cannot play the all important position. Those who focus on his "talent" are really just confusing athleticism for aptitude in playing the position. They are not the same thing and only marginally correlated. At the end of the day, guys like RG3 are not rare. True franchise QBs are rare. In my opinion he will likely be in the discussion for all time epic busts. If you were serious about taking a chance on a player, do whatever you have to to get Jameis W. Bills could actually have half a chance if his stock dropped a lot because of off field issues (assuming he comes out this year), though it would be very costly. If he's just immature and not really crazy (which I tend to believe) he would be worth it. He could be as good as Andrew Luck - and that's about as good as it gets.

I don't know if Moeaki could have been the answer but I understand the sentiment. If the Bills had a really good and complete TE and a legit vertical threat WR they would have absolutely all the tools for a top shelf passing game. Imagine Gronk instead of Troup and TY instead of TJ. Just to say that such things are not impossible.