billykaykay

Amen

With #1 picks, people on this board are quick to label them either busts or they defend them as if it was their own draft pick. In my opinion, G seems to be pretty average. He is decent in coverage but we are quick to gripe when he gets beat. ALL db's get beat - they just have to keep it at a minimum.On those 3rd & 16s, is he told to play soft or is he afraid to get a penalty if he breathes on the WR? Go Bills.

On Monday night, BB chose to run 3 plays at the end of the game & then punt to the Jets. With Brady , one might think that a completed pass would salt it. Is BB a genius (he won) or was he just lucky that Gino could only get them so far.I don't like BB, but I think that I would have done the same thing with Gino as the other QB.

Why is the rule such that if the QB throws the ball away while outside the pocket, it is not IG ? Why not allow the QB to throw it away while in the pocket, as long as it travels past the line of scrimmage ? Why does their have to be a receiver near by?I guess what I am saying is that a QB ought to be allowed to throw the ball away if he wishes as long as he doesn't make a travesty of the game by throwing it at his own feet when under pressure. For another thread I know, but they could pretty much get rid of spiking the ball by adopting the college rule of stopping the clock after 1st downs. If the league is really interested in "fantastic finishes", which I know they are, this would be a common sense rule change.

Isn't he a freshman?

A little more than a half century.As Marv said - when it works, it was the right call. I just don't believe in jumping on the bad coach bandwagon after every loss.

What evidence do you have that he isn't just that - a mediocre QB? He certainly is not a bum, but why the love for a guy who has been very ordinary?

Who did he take out of the game in the KC game ?

Gronk & Brady make mince meat out of ALL teams. I guess they should all fire their coaches. I would guess that if I went into all the team chat rooms after a loss, they would be griping about the play calling.

I usually agree with you, Kirby, but Bradford is overrated. There is no evidence that he is a franchise QB to be desired. He is an accurate passer. That's about it. He also always seems to be injured. Just because a QB gets taken early doesn't make him a franchise QB. He just may have been a reach by the Rams. He is a decent QB - just not as good as some make him out to be.

Despite what they say, they have already given up on EJ. He wasn't demoted. The injured starting QB returned & reclaimed the job.

Great observation. Hadn't thought of that, but O throws a nice long ball. Perhaps, we begin to get those 30 yd penalties.

Brady might be the only one to fit your definition of long term. Four or five years is a lifetime in the NFL>

As a rookie, he started when the starting QB went down for the year. He, as a rookie, led the Bears to the playoffs. The following year, the job was given back to the starter.In Denver, I remember his having a very good year - throwing deep to Brandon LLoyd. They were a terrific combination that year. He eventually succumbed to the irrational fans screaming for Tebow & getting their way when mgmt started Tebow over him. Orton is a damn good QB. He is no Brady, Manning etc. If we don't run him out of town after a bad game, he will prove to be a serviceable QB that is capable of taking a decent team to the playoffs. Just my opinion.

I'd say you should almost always defer. If you defer, you receive in the 3rd quarter & go against the wind, but you get the wind in the 4th Q. If you are ahead in the 4th, the other team may have to pass & they will be passing into the wind - an obvious disadvantage. If we are behind in the 4th Q & have to pass, we will be passing with the wind at our back.

Right on. The casual fan might like a lot of offense, but many of us enjoy good defensive play just as much. If it weren't for FF &/or gambling, viewership would be down.

Marrone had a good game. However, there were a couple of spots that I would have challenged. Also, at the end of the half with 9 seconds on the clock, I think that he should have accepted the penalty & give it a shot from midfield. Long shot but still a shot. There wasn't enough time for Detroit if our pass failed. All in all, good coaching all around.

And also - play calling & the OC.

Didn't Fitz make less money with Tennessee than he would have with Bflo?

Why isn't he "long term" ? Orton is 31. QB's can play well into their late 30's. Orton, if he does well, could be playing for the Bills 5-7 years. In pro football, that would probably be considered long term.

What the heck has Bradford ever done?

I think that Orton will be rusty. He needs a game under his belt after no camp; no preseason; and having played just one(1) game over the past year. After the one game, he will be an upgrade. Lets hope that it translates to wins.

agree.

Yes to each & every one of them.

I think that Orton QB'd the Bears to the playoffs as a rookie.