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I put my blue tarp on one leg at a time. The difference is, once my blue tarp's on, I make blue tarp.

I think their mascot should be a Jacksonville instead.

Until there are Agile QBs that have won a Super Bowl on that list, your point that these QBs are a better option is not "proven." There is a trend toward them right now, but a pocket passer just won the SB over an Agile QB. Any knock on Flacco about the team around him helping out can just as easily be made about Kaep. I would be happy to see either on the Bills right now. Re Stafford, the QBs in the discussion were not my selection, I only made the point that they were drafted within a year of one another and haven't taken as long to develop as you insinuated. I'd also not be complaining if he was in a Bills uniform. As many have pointed out, hopefully intentionally to stir the pot, though possibly due to a delusional disorder or a bad acid trip, your original point requires little to no comment.

Here's the list of SB winning QBs since 1990. I'd say history diagrees with you. Steve Young is the only running QB on that list and closest thing to what you're touting. Of the slow goofs that you point to in your initial slow goof reference, as has been noted in the press recently, Flacco has the best winning percentage among QBs in the NFL in his first 5 years in the league, and now has a SB MVP. Matt Ryan has been to the playoffs with the Falcons in 4 of the 5 years he's been the starter for the Falcons. Pretty slow development. Matt Stafford plays for the Lions, panning him is like panning Brandon Weeden. Detroit can't get out of their own way, but it's not because of Stafford. The running QB is a trend that has yet to be borne out as successful instead of gimmick. They are clearly not the only way to win. They are fun to watch, though. Super Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD Super Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco

Whoopdie f#%€in' do! You won the Super Bowl! Can't wait to hear about this s!#t every f#%*+£g Christmas! Congratulations, John!

Score: Slow Goofs 1, Sky is the Limit 0

Out of curiosity, why not ask my mother and sister, too? You know, the ringless loser like my grandmother, wife and daughter. Who cares what he has to say, anyway.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Don't stop him now, he's on a roll.

I've often wondered whether troll was a reference to the fishing tactic or the mythical fantasy creature... What's the price to cross your bridge?

(***sniff***sniff***) Smells like troll.

Just goofing... I was playing with your choice of the word "shortcomings," but doing so on and iPad limits my ability to bold words or use emoticons to tip off my intent. Epic fail... sorry.

I've seen the season stats for the Titans D trotted out on this board in this argument a number of times. They also posted 54 sacks that year, and 40 turnovers, and IIRC the end of that season and during the playoffs, minus the Steelers game, the Titans were abusing QBs. I don't remember the defensive battle being that much of a surprise at the time, especially given the weather conditions. Only years later do people point to the weakness of the Titans D to make this point. Nice. Justify the cancer reference... but just keep HAMMERING AWAY at the height thing.

You mean like the bust that the Bills drafted #8 overall in April 2013, what a POS he'll turn out to be.

Interestingly, if your point is, as a trend, the three QBs you mention are running QBs drafted over a short period of time that have had success, the three that you are disputing were also drafted in a year (defined as 365 days, much as you had to do to include Kaepernick in your argument), started immediately, took their teams to the playoffs, and depending on the outcome of next Sunday's game, have the opportunity to completely invalidate what I believe is the only valid point you've tried to make so far. Or, you realize this, have intentionally misstated the facts, and I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me (Truly, you have a dizzying intellect).

Or maybe "Don't get too close, I think I **** my pants."

ESPN did a great 30 for 30 on him. Seems like, for someone of his athletic ability, a pretty down to earth guy. Love the run up the wall... As Steve O pointed out, his football career ending hip injury occurred the week prior to the AFC Championship game in the win over the Bengals...

Maybe after the hip injury...

Actually, it was baseball. He was already playing with KC Royals before he started his football "hobby" during the baseball offseason. His contract with the Raida's kicked in after the baseball season ended. I don't think he missed a game to injury those 3 years prior to the dislocated hip.

If the part about Big Ben is true, I'm betting it was not consensual.

Almost. Fitz is inaccurate because in trying to get weight behind his passes it alters the support that his neck is providing to stabilize his head, resulting in an exaggerated centripetal acceleration that David Lee was unable to correct for in Fitz's throwing motion. Damn behemoth noggin!

Ryan Fitzpatrick with a little more accuracy (assuming fewer game-killing picks) likely has us in the playoffs this season.

And I thought Tim Krumrie was odd... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000123802/article/doug-marrone-can-solve-buffalo-bills-ryan-fitzpatrick-problem here's the link

Can't blame them for stepping up to the plate and taking a cut. I have several friends that are Cleveland fans... probably one of the few fanbases that can truly relate to our own. Couple this with the Raven's win, and I'm sure they're a bit nauseous today.

Interesting. According to that, suddenly Whisenhunt becomes high on their list... can you imagine the meltdown here if we went from "The Bills have a deal in place with Chip Kelly" to "After being spurned, the Bills have hired the Whis."

Uh-huh... so you're saying the 3 Stooges are for those with a more refined sense of humor?