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last week was so bad my wife literally tweeted at Beth Mowins to stop mixing up tyrod and shady....

Where our D has struggled has been against teams that can run it well between the hashes. Luckily, the Pats* are not that type of team, so i think we have a punchers chance. If TT from the first half of yesterday comes to play, we might walk away with a big win on the road

lol, multi-dimensional threat!!!

i like Murph. Despite the fact that it is his job to be biased (a-la Chris Brown) i think he does a good job of making good points and being balanced, which makes him credible for a Bills-pocket reporter.

i think it really depends on the next couple years. If he stays and keeps racking up yards, then i think the Bills should and would honor him. He would, at that point, have been the best player on the team over a significant era (5+ years). If he was traded away after this season hypothetically, i do not think he would. So really depends on the next two to three years. For the Bills to honor him, it would be based upon what he did as a Bill, as opposed to the HOF which would honor him based on what he did at each stop along his career. That makes a big difference. Over his career for the Bills, so far shady has run for 3200yds and 22TDs. For comparison, in his first 3 years with the bills, Travis Henry ran for 3500yds and 27TDs...

One that hasent been named yet: Terrence McGee. Decent cover guy, and holy hell could he return kicks. 5450 return yards for a 26.3 average and 5 TDs. Next closest on return yards in team history is McKelvin with 2471 and in TDs is Charley Warner (back in 1964) with 3... 2x All-Pro as a returner! From Wiki: Bills franchise records[edit] Most career kickoff return yards (5,450)[1] Most career kickoff return touchdowns (5)[1] Most career All-Purpose yards (5,450)[1] Longest Kickoff return touchdown: 104[1] Most career fumble return yards (106)[1] Most passes defended (97)[1]

im not sure the players share you perspective on either point there. not saying i disagree, just saying they might not see it that way / be thinking about it that way.

i think the problem was rex tried to build a bully, BUT: you can only be a bully if you are relevant -> you can only be relevant if you win games -> you cant win games getting an insane amount of 15yd personal fouls a game Steelers can hand out 15yd penalties because they can still pick up the 1st and move on. Their team is build on star power. Our team is built on playing smart football and not beating ourselves. We can say we should do this and do that, but the facts are we dont have a QB, and we dont have WRs, so we cant afford 15yrd penalties and expect to win. Id prefer to try and win, than try and prove Gronk we werent scared of him while beating ourselves like idiots.

i mean, given how it played out, the switch to Peterman certainly should have caused a dip to the low point of the year. This is garbage.

If Quenton Nelson from ND falls, we should take a look. I know everyone wants us to package the farm to move up and take a QB, but he is a once every few years guard porspect, and still with a 1st and two seconds can move around if we need to. Personally, i wouldnt be opposed of going OL OL in round 1, and going DT, LB, LB/DE in rounds 2 and 3. For QB go for Cousins or maybe the odd man out in Bradford/Bridgewater. If you get it wrong, you can take the QB in 2019 and have a young OL and young up-and-coming defense already in place.

What evidence draws you to this conclusion?

Hughes had a couple nice stunts and bull-power moves as well...the front 4 played well which helped generated a consistent pass rush. At least one sack was a coverage sack. So without going back and rewatching, seemed like a good mixture of looks (blitz and coverage) which kept them guessing and on their heels for most the game.

+1

Hahaha

imagine last week if the game didnt get away from us... he averaged 10+yds per carry. Hopefully he totally shreds KC, and they have some designed read options put back in the offense to keep the KC D honest. He prob needs to go for 150yds for us to have a chance....

LOL at this thread. All the Peterman backers pointing to the OL being the problem and not giving him a chance but fail to recognize TT playing with the same OL was putting up historically low turnover #s. Someone even posted that throwing for 300 yards and a 1:1 TD INT ratio was better than throwing for < 200yds and a 4:1 ratio as if: A) that makes any logical sense??? B) Peterman was capable of throwing for 300 yds and a 1/1 ratio??? C) Ignoring that in 2017 only 1 QB in the league is averaging more than 300 yds a game (Tom Brady) and only 12 QBs are averaging > 250yds a game D) Ignoring that players who have averaged > 240yds and a 1:1 TD/INT ratio this season include Kirk Cousins (4-6), Philip Rivers (4-6), Jameis WInston (4-6), Derek Carr (4-6)

Talent > Coordinator 100%. If we had same coaches but major upgrades at RG, RT, DT, and OLB, this team would be rolling. If we had the same players but Bill Cowher, Bill Belichick, Bill Parcells (all Bills!!!), we would be about where we are right now, give or take an L or W. The only major coordinator blame anyone can credibly assign is Dennison's reluctance to tailor the offense to Taylor (see what i did there), but 90% of people here wanted Taylor out of town anyways so cant blame the coordinator for not "limiting the offense because of our limited QB" Either way, that argument also falls on the side of talent (ie a better QB would get better results)

Scheme changes are always hard. Rex destroyed that defense with scheme. Mcd and Frazier also brought in a new scheme. Also, the personnel turnover has been massive. We have an entirely new secondary including nickle and dime CBs. literally not a single one has played together before. Humber new at LB and Preston and Lorax playing in a new scheme at new positions. Shaq barely played last year, and the interior DL with all its rotations features young or new players in a new scheme. None of that is assigning blame, that is just reporting the news. Rex took veterans and ruined them with scheme. This defense has new players, coaches, and scheme all to deal with at once. apples and oranges, even though the results are similar..both bad.

it was probably a called run that Peterman audibled into his designed INT play that was working so well at that point. Gotta keep going to the well

LOL at this thread

not a fair analogy. Bledsoe was hurt. When he came back and they stuck with Brady, they had already been winning games w Brady and made a call that Brady was better. You cant make that call here.

...The divisional round of the playoffs

i said "bad move" because we are in the thick of the playoff race. Maybe Peterman is a total stud, but its just so unknown and so it is very risky by definition. If we started TT and lost, then you can move on w Peterman and have plenty of games left to evaluate. If you win w TT you are in very good shape for the wild card. Everyone quick to say "so what if we get in, we wont do anything so will be one and done and be a waste..." tell that to the Tebow led Broncos. Need to get in, then anything can happen.

Tangential comment but so many Tyrod threads, i figure here as good a place as any... Tyrod is probably the top back-up QB in the league. He doesnt make mistakes, he can make plays with his feet, and he has plenty game and situational experience. For any team making a playoff run that has their QB go down, Tyrod would be extremely desirable given how he manages a game and doesnt turn the ball over. On a good team, he will keep the game close and give them a chance. That is worth something. Not sure if that is worth anything...we prob cant trade him, and no one would pay for his contract at the back-up position, but if you told me he was our backup QB for the next few years at the higher-end of back-up QB pay, i would be very happy with that.

I am at a point with current management where there is no point to offer up what i think they should and shouldnt do. They have earned the right for me for me to hold off until the offseason and talk about the draft, FAs etc. I wouldnt have traded Sammy, and i wouldnt have traded Darby. At the start of the season, i couldnt imagine them trading Marcel. I think these guys know what they are doing so for me its time to sit back and just assume what they do as probably a good decision...a foreign but wonderful place to be. enjoy the ride