Mr. WEO

I criticized them for adapting a sure fail format of showing games in the middle of nowhere in front of no one. You called that a smart plan because it saves money. I laughed at that suggestion You said that’s criticizing them for “saving money”. Lol Considering the massive uphill climb each of these leagues have (over and over), pinching pennies on inauguration sounds more like hedging losses than saving money. Do you think potential advertisers are eager to buy ad time for this level of ball played in front of empty stadiums? Do fans at home feel like it’s a legit watch if free tickets won’t even get people to go? simple questions.

I’m no engineer, that’s for sure. Instead, as posted above, I was quoting PSE leadership who was quoting the firm that assessed the current stadium. They said it could be done for the price they mentioned. Why don’t either of you tell us all how your survey of that property came to the opposite conclusion that theirs did.

no this league is doomed anyway. But this decision is going to hasten the end. Empty stadiums in the middle of the Deep South without a penchant for pro football with empty stands in every camera shot 4 games in a row every weekend. the advertisers should be running to the network ad sales offices

This is a bad decision for 2 reasons: 1. if only people in and around Birmingham come to the games, the cities the teams are ostensibly "from" have no real fan base. No reason to follow the team. 2. if the league is depending on people in and around Birmingham filling the stands for every game every week, there will be endless images of nearly empty stadiums on TV for entire games. This will affect the impression of all but the most hopeless football junkie in that fewer people will continue to watch bad football played in front of a noiseless/nonexistent crowd. Ratings have to plummet and who wants to buy ad space for that? This has been proven meaningless during the last (XFL) fiasco. Local ratings aren't going to keep any league afloat. Plus, networks pay for content--lots of programming slots to fill. NBA brings 82 games a year for every team. Plus every team has fans/viewers outside of the home town viewing radius.

Perseveration is often the first sign, doc... Anyway, 7.5 years ago, any issues with the structure were well known when Pegula bought the place. Yet, despite the well documented FACT that it is "about to collapse", it has been deemed safe for use until at least 4 years from now, whenever the new place is finished. Maybe you and boater can position yourselves outside the gates for each home gate until then, warning people against entering the teetering wreck. Anyway, PSE (based on engineers' report) recently said it would cost a billion to renovate the current stadium---if you disagree, take it up with them. However, we can assume it would have been significantly less if planned 7.5 years ago.

when it was feasible would have been some years ago. Your histrionics over impending “collapse” helps you obscure the obvious. Pointing out that it now is beyond repair is meaningless for the purpose of this discussion. Other major remodeling projects didn’t wait so long as 50 years you both know, so you understand.

So when Indy had years of top Defenses, they were paper tigers. When NE has it they were very good Defenses? Nah. Manning's high flying Offense? Brady's Offense was top 10 for 18 of his 19 seasons. 8 top 3's and 3 #1's. At age 44 he was the top QB in the NFL last season (by 300 yards). He's averaged over 4600 yards the past 10 years (since his mid 30's. The bolded were JAGS/creations of Brady. Hernandez? lol, he really killed it for one season...

College ball has been around far longer than the NFL

about to collapse? No. The fact that games were safe enough to hold a full crowd only months ago renders that ridiculous. but if you read my post a little more closely, you would see I said “when it was feasible to do so”. You even quoted it lol wtf

history has proven over and over that this football crazed country has no appetite for non NFL pro football.

Colts only SB with Manning they were ranked 21 on D. He only had 2 seasons where his D was worse than that. In 2007, Colts D was #3 (#1 in yards). One and done in beautiful San Diego. In 5 of his Colts' playoff seasons, the D was ranked #8, 7, 7, 1, 2, 1---and 4 times one and done, despite very good Defenses. Brady had a lot of very good Defenses, not a lot of weapons on Offense (who's the best RB? Best WR other than a bit of Moss?)---and he won 6 rings. Headed home after 1 playoff game 7 times.

you're halfway there! lol

You've just described everyone on this board. Manning was great, but he was on stacked Offenses in Indy with 1 ring to show. His Colts made the playoffs 11 of his 12 seasons and had an unbelievable 7 (out of 11) one and done playoff years. His second ring came with an awful performance--on another team. Go look at the Offensive rosters Brady was winning Lombardi's with before Gronk showed up. Rodgers should have had the last 2 Packers teams in the SB. Instead, 39 regular season wins over the last 3 seasons.....2 playoff wins.

people still have satellite dishes at/on their homes?

That was for the Saturday game. No way the Sunday games got those numbers. Similar ratings were seen for inaugural XFL game (all 4 week 1 games, really). By week 5 they were averaging under a million.

what's this got to do with Poyer?

why would the Miami game be a national draw?

or what? You can buy an NHL team and have it be awful for years and years. No big deal.

By all accounts (except that one poster upstream), Lambeau after the renovation is a great stadium.

don't go, it's a dump. Heard it here first.

Many people who watch football and attend games don't believe the public should fund stadiums (see SD and St Louis). I wouldn't know anyone who thinks the publicly funded care of children is "wasteful". I don't know anyone who doesn't travel in a vehicle that uses roads and bridges (or tracks or tunnels). People who live in the suburbs of major cities often use public transportation daily (the entire Tri-State Area, for example). You are confusing railing against bad deals for the public with "railing against the team actually staying" (whatever that is). I've stated many times, it's my belief the state could have forced a better deal from PSE. Why are you struggling with such a basic point? lol Green Bay's stadium is a "dump"? hot take right there.

How? the ratings plummeted from weeks 1-5 before COVID shut down.

If The Rock is watching what’s going on in the USFL, he’ll bail out of XFL, just like Vince McMahon did after 5 games

Fit it up

go below the equator and its orientation will be to your liking.