Hapless Bills Fan

I'm honestly not sure he's known that. It seems plausible to me that Watson may sincerely believe he respects women and that what he did was nothing wrong, just a harmless kink or thrill. He undoubtedly knew he was making the women uncomfortable (and that may have been the point) but he also may feel he stopped short of a boundry anyone would care about from a legal standpoint. The outliers to that would be the allegations of forced oral sex.

Since in the cases which have come to light, Watson specified that he was looking for a "massage for relaxation, not a sports massage", asking for licensed sports massage therapists would not produce the relevant names. But let's just look at the bigger issue here. You're proposing a conspiracy that hasn't come unglued. That relies on all the moving parts of the conspiracy to keep silent. Now you're proposing that in order to start the conspiracy off, whoever it is you think is conspiring against Watson - who is it, anyway? McNair? Easterby? Caserio? Someone in McNair's pay who doesn't work for the Texans? - left a trail by going around to Texans staff and players asking "who do you use to give you massages?". Now, somehow, none of these teammates and coaches and staff, have "connected the dots" and come forward to say "McNair's personal assistant contacted me 6 weeks ago to ask for names and contact info of all the "personal relaxation massage therapists" we use. Now Watson is being sued by a bevy of personal relaxation massage therapists. Hell of a coincidence, isn't it?" You just multiplied the number of people who must keep silent to support the conspiracy by a large factor - 5 or 10x, making a united front of silence even more improbable. Read Hapless post right here. Talking to 70 other people for names, raises the probability that one of those 70 will speak out and then the rest will follow and say "yeah, he ask me that same question" and start the smoke that would point back to the conspiracy fire. Now I'm outta here too.

I believe your post to which I responded was in response to the contention "So these women would just want compensation instead of Watson being criminally charged if indeed he actually did something criminal ?" I'm outta here.

How? Apparently two were recommended by training staff in the Texans facility, so if they ask everyone in the facility "hey, did you ever recommend any massage therapists to DeShaun Watson?" and that staff happens to remember that conversation and happens to remember who they recommended (or did it by text) I guess they could get those two names.

She did not book him again. She said she hypothetically would if he would meet certain conditions he apparently found unacceptable, as he did not book.

C'mon WEO. It's not criminal to contact a massage therapist to request a massage. Even "incessantly".

The Holtzclaw case is very interesting. It all came to the surface when he targeted the "wrong" (for him) woman AND the police department found her credible (no police record or convictions, stable life) AND the department immediately uncovered enough discrepancies between his story and hard evidence they gained. Then the department looked at other evidence - Holtzclaw's gps track compared to the route described in a complaint of "forced oral sex" by a police office that no one took seriously or investigated a month earlier because, poor complainant with criminal record. After that, the investigators looked at all the record checks he'd run, reached out to the women, AND matched their stories to GPS data from Holtzclaw's car. I guess my point is that absent three key factors - a "credible" victim, an officer or officers who took the complaint seriously (vs the officers who took the complaint the previous month), AND immediate physical evidence to back the stories up - the chances seem very good that the case would not have proceeded, and all of those women would have potentially placed themselves and their families at risk of possible police reprisals AND targets of negative public attention. I don't know if most of the conduct in the Watson lawsuits available to date or SI story rises to the level of a criminal complaint in Texas (anyone?). The complaints of forced oral sex,certainly, but given the context (a massage, with the known blurry boundary between "just massage" services vs. "rub and tug" palaces), I think the chances that the police would have taken the rest of the complaints seriously or investigated to unearth their large number, is pretty low even if there is some criminal statute that would apply. Just my opinion.

The texts we know about appear to just be arranging massages. Nothing wrong with that, though using so many different massage therapists seems strange. However, it is telling to me that a woman who gave Watson a massage he booked through her colleague, felt it necessary to text that she would book him if he would behave more professionally and agree to be draped with a sheet this time, or that she gives "massage, nothing else"

That was my thought. Plus the woman interviewed for SI who is NOT part of the lawsuit but who had a very similar story. It'd be worse than "herding cats" to get a group approaching 2 dozen to participate in some form of conspiracy that would involve eventually their names coming out and testifying under oath in court - and not have anyone "blink" and decide to re-think that plan and go to the news media.

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I think one reason the Bills may have been more successful is that 1-2 personnel put Lee Smith on the field Knox is a very inconsistent blocker. If he knows who he's supposed to block, he can do OK but he seems easily confused by who his assignment is in the case of any stunts or defensive movements. And sometimes in space, he's just shoved to the side like a pesky chihuahua. I haven't paid enough attention to Hollister to know whether or not he's an improvement.

OK, this is -from a woman who was contacted by SI (she didn't contact them) BEFORE learning she had worked with Watson -she is NOT part of Buzbee's suit and in fact, when she contacted him after his request to talk to massage therapists who had worked with Watson, she declined to sign up with him -to me, it's notable that Watson reached out to her through her own business page (vs the business that referred him initially) and when she made it clear she would only work with him if he covered with a sheet and behaved "professionally", that ended his interest in booking. Yeah, if I had a story like that or a family member had a story like that and I'd just kind of let it go and moved on from it, I'd be pissed off to have the person involved be denying everything, and that would motivate me to come forward or urge them to come forward. The best I can say is 1) gross 2) damned weird way of defining "never treated a woman with anything but the utmost respect" by Watson. Bet that's not what he'd think if that was a female relative of his, or his girlfriend.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the "Commissioner's Exempt List" kinda like the "Screw the Team that's got the player under contract" list ie, that player still gets paid and still counts against the cap?

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Thanks for the explanation, @Rochesterfan. Ordinary hospital labs face a heavy burden of regulations and are inspected frequently as well, but I grasp that the requirements around chain of custody, "blinding" of the tests, and confirmation, are different. What's weird to me about all this, however, is that we had a very publicized case around here where a young mother was tried and convicted of 1st degree murder for having murdered her infant by putting antifreeze in his formula. The tests were apparently all based upon a single hospital's test results without a confirmatory test, not specialized forensic laboratory results. Her conviction was overturned when a second child, born while she was in jail awaiting trial and removed to foster care, became ill and was diagnosed as having a genetic disease, MMA. Tests proved her dead child also had that disease and had died of untreated MMA. (the original test was apparently unable to resolve propionic acid, a metabolite produced with MMA disease, from ethylene glycol) So evidently one needs a special forensic toxicology lab and special confirmatory tests, until one doesn't?

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I can't answer this. When I worked in the ER at a major hospital (this was decades ago) we would get toxic screen results on patients with an altered state of consciousness back in half an hour, max - blood alcohol plus half a dozen other recreational drugs common at the time - so we had the information needed to treat the patient. When this was discussed with regard to Ed Oliver last off season, one of our guys who works in law enforcement (I think it might have been @LeviF91) said it took their lab > 1 month to get blood test results back. I don't know if they have to use a special lab that uses special equipment or some special chain of custody that makes everything take longer or what the case is. As Britt Reid went to the hospital after the accident and required surgery, I guarantee with the case history he came in with the hospital lab drew blood and ran a toxic screen (or whatever they call it there)

Agree but I think the point is whether there is anything out there on social media or talking to contacts that would indicate the above might not be sincere

https://deadspin.com/why-the-hell-hasn-t-britt-reid-been-arrested-already-1846486173 "Why the hell hasn’t Britt Reid been arrested already?" Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Good post. That does sum it up, though I'd call it 3 needs: 1) improve pressure on QB 2) improve run game (which I think means OL first and foremost) 3) speed. Whilst drooling over KC's "power moves", folks should keep in mind that KC has serious questionmarks at two of the key positions for the 5 who protect The Franchise. I'm not saying they won't sort it out later in FA, or through a trade or through the draft - but the point is at this point (as Zerovoltz and I have been discussing) they have two serious gaps there. I guess my point is, perhaps we should wait through the rest of FA and the draft before freaking out "OMG KC is making power moves and we're treading water". KC has made some improvements, but they've also got some serious ??s.

I know who Duvarney-Tardiff is and what he's been doing. Just the reference "The DR" was puzzling to me. You didn't answer my other question: C and LT are some pretty big holes heading into the draft. What's the plan?

Who is "The DR"? LT and C are some pretty big holes. What's the plan there?