Thurman#1

No trade ups, thanks. Hard to talk about who we should pick, as around 50 guys now available will be off the list by the time we draft. I haven't seen much of anything on guys this far back but other people's opinions. If forced to, I'd pick probably Roy, Ojomo, Brooks, Wypler, Vorhees, and Saldiveri. Maybe Roschon. But probably a lot will be gone. I can't speak very informedly on this.

Yeah, Bernard. As I said, we'll know in a year or two.

Oh, please. He's All-Pro and not terrific? Milano's absolutely terrific, don't kid yourself.

True, unfortunately. Once Campbell went, there really wasn't anybody this year. Of course, they could have drafted some other position in the 3rd round.

Fair enough, but that could easily be just that they're so thrilled with Taron Johnson that they don't want to take him out.

They've been decent there, outside of Moss. Singletary, Knox, Phillips were all solid to very good. Brown is promising, though it could still go either way, and with Bernard, it's too early, who knows.

Edmunds was a good choice. Regardless of the pitchfork crowd that he attracted over the years. There's a reason he's now the 4th best paid off-ball LB, behind only Roquan, Shaquille Leonard and Fred Warner. And the reason he was developed was that he was drafted. By the Bills. As a longshot. You do know that drafting a longshot who becomes terrific says great things about your drafting, right?

Not in the 3rd, we haven't. Dunno the thought behind this, but I'm confident STs isn't more than the 3rd or 4th consideration here. I wish they'd traded back here. I guess they'd have had to trade back too far, they say? I'd rather they'd done that. But I don't know Williams at all. I could very easily be proven wrong.

Milano was a sensational pick and Edmunds was good. So you should. Not that I know the first thing about Dorian Williams. Generally not doing well (or doing very well for that matter) at picking any particular position is more about sample size, the early or late nature of the picks you've taken and luck than it is about difficulty picking any one particular position.

Everyone. Football isn't about offense. It's about both offense and defense. Good good picks, but not because they're on the offense. Just because they're really good players and good bargains where picked.

Dane Brugler said about Kincaid's blocking that he was "willing and functional." Now, that's far from outstanding, but in no way could you ever call Gesicki's blocking either functional or willing.

Doesn't mean nothing, it's something. But if he plays well he can make the pick look great.

One? No. Should they be thinking about it if it makes sense? Yeah, absolutely.

Cover1 had "Swole Beasley."

It's a fair point, but Kincaid is already a lot better blocker than Gesicki has ever been or for that matter wanted to be. Gesicki is dreadful. Kincaid is about replacement level as a blocker, and for a guy who's got as little experience at it and is a rookie, that's a lot more acceptable.

I guess you can argue he's been underutilized, but not a whole lot. 17th in TE targets. 17th in TE receptions. Tied for 5th in TE TDs. 14th in TE yards. All this for a guy whose brother died during the season. Is it really that surprising that they started him slow? He had 27 targets in the first eight weeks, out of his total of 65. He had 20 catches out of 48 in his first eight games. Folks, none of this makes any less than total sense. Finn, "incompetent" is way way overstating it for Brown, who was recovering from back surgery, didn't have an offseason, and improved a lot as the season went along. But yeah, fair enough, he wasn't as good as we wanted and may well have needed more help sometimes than you'd want him to, and that may have affected the way they used Knox.

Of course you can. They might easily have thought he was the BPA from, say #23 when Addison was picked. Perhaps even quite a bit earlier. It's not "Best Player Available at Your Original Draft Position." It's Best Player Available ... at a position of need, whenever you pick.

Nolan Smith. Several others as well, but he was my #1. Hadn't watched a single highlight on Kincaid.

Mazi Smith and Brandon Hill

Me? I'd much rather have someone who doesn't try hard.

Van Jefferson at #57 Metcalf at #64 (and Metcalf had injury problems in college but his fall was more from concerns about stiffness and a limited route tree and concerns he would need a lot of development) Parris Campbell at #59 exactly\ Terry McLaurin at #76 Smith-Shuster at #62 Cooper Kupp at #69 Chris Godwin at #84 Tyler Boyd at #55 Tyreek in the 5th You can still get guys at that level or later. It's not a dead zone. Yes, the percentages go down the further back you go, but that absolutely does not mean you can't do very well there a pretty reasonable percentage of the time.

Yup. Good point. It's also fair to point out that this year is a bit weaker than recent past years, but a 2nd round WR could easily turn out to be a terrific pick. And IMO you're being a bit kind with the Hopkins folks. Unless Arizona eats a ton of his contract, he's just too expensive, and probably would cost too much in trade to be a one-year rental, yet we'd have a very hard time re-signing him after this year. I think it's pretty unlikely we end up with him. Not impossible, but quite unlikely.

Seumalo is 29 and coming off a terrific season. Fluker is 32 and coming off a season where he completely disappeared, and one before that where he was cut from I believe three practice squads. That's two years off (not three as several said above). Wouldn't mind taking a flier on him at vet min. Anything beyond that, though, and no thanks.

Oh, CeeDee Lamb, with 867 slot yards, also, 1st round.

There's no reason to mention failures when it comes to picking the same position again. Every GM who's been around more than about a year has missed a bunch of picks. It happens. It's absolutely inevitable. And making one bad pick at one position isn't good or even reasonable evidence that you won't do well the next time you pick there. Oh, and Tommy Doyle isn't a missed pick by any stretch of the imagination. He's a 5th rounder, still on the team as a backup. That's what you would expect. Nor Spencer Brown. We simply don't know yet about him, with the back injury. Cody Ford? Yeah, absolutely. A failure. But not the other two. To remind you, this what you said: You: As wrong as you can get. You can and you do. It's where most of the best slots come from.