Thurman#1

It's pretty common timing for a new GM finding he isn't satisfied with the group he had. You can't really fire all the scouts when you're hired in January. The guys you bring in will not have coordinated their scouting. Many players will be uncovered. They've missed the college season.

Nix was pretty good. His problem was that he couldn't bring in a QB and that when they wanted a coach Ralph was passing and absolutely nobody wanted the job. He built a really good defense, but that meant they never got really high draft picks for a QB.

I haven't a clue whether or not this is true. But the doctors do. And if possible, it would be an excellent reason for teams to stay away. Bottom line is that this is up to the doctors, the liability lawyers, the teams and the league's concerns over possible horrendous consequences and whether the possible high ceiling and terrific rewards are in fact impossible. The doctors know better than we do, and the teams are making a different decision than you folks are if death is actually on the table (and again, I don't have a clue, but I haven't seen anyone in the thread who seems to know either).

On the field, he's faster than 4.45 But yeah, he's got a lot to prove. 2nd year would be the time to do that, if it happens.

Don't expect that. He is far more likely to see maybe 40% of the snaps and most of the third downs. If he's as good as we hope, that'll increase in future years.

My guess is it's a fluke.

He may well be a tweener. But part of the whole different animal that the NFL is ... is that more and more tweeners are finding homes and becoming terrific players in today's NFL. "He wasn't on anyone's radar"? That's utter nonsense. He was on many people's radar. Not the Bills so much because Bills fans had different ideas about what the Bills needed and wanted than Beane does. Beane - and everyone, really - have included LB on Bills need lists. Many fans thought that meant they wanted to replace Tremaine, but clearly what Beane meant was that he wanted to replace Klein and at the same time get some desperately needed quality backup talent in there for Milano and Tremaine. Not on anyone's radar? Except for Cowboy fans, Steeler fans, Bears fans, Giants fans, Raiders fans ... and I could go on and on and on. https://www.reddit.com/r/cowboys/comments/sxihpv/a_cowboys_mock_draft/ https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2022/4/4/23009076/what-could-a-defensive-focused-draft-look-like-for-the-steelers-pittsburgh-stingley-davis-bryant-nfl https://ontapsportsnet.com/2022/04/27/chicago-bears-mock-draft-down-to-the-wire-nfl-draft-2022/ https://flipboard.com/video/fannation/1b0777642a https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/linebackers-land-squarely-raiders-draft-211515946.html

No. It wasn't "by far a better pick." You say that like it's a fact when reality is we'll know in three years or so. Your opinion is that it's a better pick? Hey fair enough, to each their own. If he turns out to be a 3rd round special teamer and Parham doesn't turn into a JAG or worse, you'll be right. Both of those outcomes might happen, but there's no particular reason to think we know for sure.

Way way way too much time spent on the stupid intros. Talk freaking football. Show some game tape on the prospects. The NFL is usually so smart in cranking up the entertainment factor of their product. And they've jumped under the bar here. I think they feel that the people actually in attendance might enjoy this, and they're probably right about that, but Jesus it's boring and stupid on TV.

Great stuff, Gunner. Thanks.

So according to you, bringing in Saffold equals "no infusion of talent"? And you feel you now have enough information at the end of the 3rd to know they're not going to infuse any talent to the OL in the draft or FA? Yeah, those are both wrong. There's certainly room for frustration here - I'd rather have had Parham myself - but that take is just wrong.

Hah You cracked me up there. That's exactly it. Good post. This is going to take some time for me to grow to like. On the face of it, it doesn't make a lot of sense. But they do need someone to replace Klein as the #3 and to back up Milano and Tremaine. I'm hoping it'll look good in retrospect. Certainly a decent chance of it.

Punter, yeah, probably. I think we were strongly considering that before acquiring these picks. We'll see.

So, all freakouts are wrong! Gotcha, this totally makes se ... oh, no, it doesn't. First, if this is a freakout, I'd hate to see what you'd call a molehill. Second, people hated it when we brought in Kelvin Benjamin too. Or when we drafted Cody Ford. Sometimes it makes sense. And if you feel people need to move on after eight hours of mild complaints, I'd suggest you take another look at your filter in terms of what people need to do. I don't greatly mind the move. And Beane is a sensational GM. But yeah, losing the pick hurts. People should stop kidding themselves it's nothing. It's not. It's something. we might easily have lost Elam if we hadn't made the trade. Or not. We'll never know. Coming down on one side of that argument, either side, makes sense.

Getting snatched off the PS was not good. But that's quite rare. And they might eventually be back. More PS guys become useful with the drafting team than get snatched.

Under this FO, Gabriel Davis and Taron Johnson only, two huge bargain successes. Yeah, we should trust Beane. But yeah, losing a pick hurts, especially when it's in their wheelhouse.

Yeah, those are the only two alternatives. He couldn't have said something like, "Well, I'll give it 110%. I'm going to give my new team everything I have. Their great fan base is inspiring. I hope I can be as tough and resilient as New York City. I promise you one thing, I'll work like a dog to help make this team a playoff yadda yadda yadda." Yes!! Precisely. That's the way to go, which is the reason 95% of the talk coming out of the NFL sounds like that. There's plenty to say between "I'm petrified with fear, and am considering changing careers" and "Those pathetic little girls, I'll have them for breakfast." Having said that, what he said won't have Diggs boiling with anger. It wasn't much. But Stefon will no doubt remember.

Then you shouldn't have used the word "desperate." There's no reason whatsoever to think any desperation was involved. Might they have activated a plan to try to move up when they only had one guy they thought of as first-round material left on the board? Sure. Does that mean they were desperate? No, it doesn't. Could easily have been logical calculation-based.

Skyy Moore or Parham if one or both are available, as a pure guess. Wouldn't surprise me, unless you're talking about the 2nd. That would really surprise me. And yeah, I get it happened last year but I would guess that if we trade up into the bottom of the 4th this year, that would be about the place it might happen this year.

You do know that's not a three-team deal, right? It's two deals, each involving two teams. Neither one of which stands more than about a 2% chance of happening, not to mention that Dean, while a good LB, doesn't appear to be what the Bills want at MLB.

We don't wonder why we suck there. That's you. We don't suck there. Singletary is good. Far from elite but good. None of Epenesa, Ford or Moss is going to move us up much at all in the 2nd. That scuttlebutt is most likely coming from Bills fandom. Picks in rounds 6 - 7? Yeah, that's his M.O. Very possible. Mid-round picks for next year? I'd bet that doesn't happen. I like your last two paragraphs.

So happy to see we didn't do this in the first. In the 2nd, it would make a ton more sense. Seems unlikely they'll trade up again when they're already down a 4th. They aren't going to trade away that 3rd now. Why should he admit a mistake? If you're talking about Singletary it was a good pick. And if you're talking about Moss it's too early to know. And he's married to his picks for excellent reason. But the idea that Beane is lying to himself and us and wouldn't admit mistakes says a lot more about your grip on reality than it does about Beane.

Agreed. He has been sensational at it. Thankfully, something happened somewhere around four years ago and he got a lot worse. It wasn't Brady leaving, they had been going downhill for a couple of years and Brady left partly in response to that.

Pretty good stuff. Thanks for posting it.

He'll continue using the rules he's used and committed to. That's the most likely thing we'll see. He'll trade up, but not trade away picks in the first four or five rounds. He'll go BPA at positions of need (which will be a bit wider than just the three obvious ones, including things like safety, TE, etc., particularly a bit later) Unless someone like Jordan Davis falls a long way, he'll go WR, CB or IOL with the first pick. And he'll cover all of those within ... oh, maybe the first five picks, I'm saying. ... Oh, and I'm guessing punter in the last couple of rounds