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It's probably just some 3rd grader on the bus to school. Younger generations are much harder these days.

And to think, some Bills fans were critical of Diggs after the game. Lol

Can you give us a game by game breakdown?

No it's a non-factor because you're really grasping at straws trying to interpret it. Leadership falls from the top. Maybe you're looking at the wrong place of infighting. Diggs has repeatedly said throughout the season he's not worried about targets, he just wants to help us win. In big moments he has often asked for the ball because he has confidence he can make a play. If anything that's most likely what it was yesterday and there's nothing wrong with that. I want all of our players hungry to make a play. I want more Diggs-like guys on the team, confident, reliable, and hungry as ever to make a play in big games. But again, he's being held to a much higher standard than anyone else and it is 100% a non-factor in us figuring out a way to advance further into the playoffs and win a Super Bowl.

As I and many others have stated, it's not poor leadership and you're holding him to a higher standard than you are the coaches. He didn't bash anyone in the media, and he's not attacking Josh like people are insinuating and trying to twist any meaning around it. This is such a non-factor and waste of energy in terms of making the team better. It's no wonder we had 17 years of playoff drought because a small but loud percentage of our fanbase focuses on things that have nothing to do with helping us win.

Such a non-factor in advancing more into the playoffs.

Fake news.

Go buy an NFL team then. Otherwise you're just trying to control things you can't.

This is as delusional as the guy saying Moulds was overrated.

Too many of you are holding Diggs to a higher standard than the coaches. If that grows I look forward to us reverting back to our mid-2000's position of being a hot destination where every FA wants to come here. (sarcasm) Jeez, get it together. I want more Diggs-like players! He catches the highest percentage of his targets and shows passion. Can't say the same for anyone else on the team. Especially our defensive coach! Unless not catching passes gets a Super Bowl? (more sarcasm but the way some of you are griping about him I'm starting to wonder if that's what you believe) Some of you are holding him to a higher standard than the coaches and making it seem like this is some prestigious character league or something. It's the NFL. Please leave your morality at the door, because you're naive if you really think that somehow is a huge factor in winning Super Bowls, it's not. I couldn't care any less about what he does outside of practices and games. Especially at this moment. How many players is this fanbase or media gonna run off for naive, emotional, meaningless character questions? It's the NFL! The Patriots had a guy hired specifically just to make sure balls were deflated properly. They had a guy hired to video tape opponents play-calling. The Saints and others have had a bounty system. Jets and Steeler coaches trip opponents. The Broncos ran a PED covert ops team and even helped Von Miller cheat a drug test. The Falcons used to pump in artificial noise. But Diggs doesn't have character and that is the focal point for some of you and the media right now? Come on... this isn't high school football. It's the NFL. If you're harping on Diggs, you're part of the problem of feeding a wave of media circus and holding this franchise back thinking this fantasy of character somehow exists and matters in terms of winning Super Bowls. We ran off Marshawn and what happened, he won a Super Bowl. Plenty of other examples. Spare me any character or morality pedestals. I'm rational enough to realize we have a talented roster and repeatedly aren't coaching them when it comes playoff time. Why some of you are keying in on Diggs and not that is one of the dumbest things I've seen from this fanbase and should be called out more. Good day!

The most wasteful energy after this loss is keying in on Diggs reaction.

Our HC and DC/AHC are both highly paid defensive experts yet can't stop any offense when it comes playoff time. If they're not identifying and adapting their weaknesses by now, one or both should be removed. To me this loss is as embarrassing as when the Steelers had their backups in for the final regular season game and all we had to do was win to make the playoffs, and we found a way to lose. Cincy had all 3 starting o-linemen out and one with a banged up knee, and we couldn't get even get a sack!

Exactly. When fans were bashing him during the season I thought it was them being too emotional and upset someone said anything remotely negative. I think the backlash was more of him teasing it and not really saying more, but still, he has to show up there every day and that could have likely been a problem. I stuck up for Wawrow then and will again, I think he's a great journalist and covers the team well.

I wondered when they came out so flat and had no real energy if they had just been too burnt on the season. Physically with injuries, mentally with all the adversities, and emotionally too. At the same time we looked so unprepared. IMO that's on coaching. The defense looked hapless for the entire game. Offense play-calling should be held to account too. Too many games we lacked any creativity on offense. I can't remember any qb design run yesterday, even though we should also be creative outside of Josh making plays with the ball. No screens except the one to Beasley again. Not sure if they've given too much autonomy on offense to Josh because it could be a reigning him in type of thing. I would be fine if Frazier and Dorsey are replaced. Josh needs an offensive guru with experience in NFL play-calling. I think that's what Daboll brought him. I think the issues last year with McD are the same this year. You can judge him all you want on the 31 NFL coaches, but I grade him next to the ones who have won Super Bowls, and I think the same issue with game management is a problem. The timeout usage in the playoffs was different than the regular season from what I remember, it got funky in the postseason. IMO it's obvious we get outcoached in games like yesterday, and like the Dolphins wild card game -- even though we won. I just don't think McD has enough experience to coach against Andy Reid and other coaches with similar experience. That being said, Beane nor the Pegulas would hold him to that level of account, and wouldn't make any change with him unless he's not making the playoffs. This offseason will be the most important one since Beane and McD have been here.

Why do I seem so content about this game? Anyone else?

LOLLL Like I said, he didn't start until 1998, the year he broke out. He was the 4th WR on the depth chart in 96 and 97 because he was behind Reed, Early, and Tasker. Two of which had already cemented their position in the HOF. Give me a break... It wasn't until Tasker retired they gave him a shot to start in 98, before that his primary role and reason he was drafted was as a kickoff returner, which he ran back his rookie season. You're arguing with hyperbole when stat after stat shows how talented he was. Sorry he didn't autograph something for you back then. Either way it's pretty obvious when we're talking about talent and you keep attacking him personally.

Keep in mind most NFL WRs back then took about 3 years to develop and Moulds wasn't starting until 1998... the year he broke out. Somehow Moulds is at fault for the 1996 playoff loss to Jacksonville though. 🙄 He was the 2nd Mississippi State player ever drafted in the 1st round and this was back before MSU had any success in football. He was low because MSU was a heavy rushing offense with very little passing, they ran a wing-t offense at the time. The idea he had a character issue coming into the NFL is a complete farce. Jackie Sherrill who was the coach of that team, also coached Dan Marino in college, and has gone on record many times saying Moulds was the best player he ever coached. Champ Bailey has gone on record many times saying Moulds was the toughest player he ever tried to cover. In 2001 he had a separated shoulder and played, put up nearly 200 yards in a game with Sam Madison covering him. He was one of the rare WRs defenses would triple cover and would still find ways to get incredible separation. Go look how many one-handed touchdowns he caught too. The naysayer is just being super emotional. Every point he makes actually makes Moulds look even better. A longer career than most with no QB? Yes he was that good. And as bad he makes it sound, Moulds still had within 500 career yards of Keyshawn, within 4,000 career yards of Marvin (even though Marvin had Manning and also murdered someone), and had more career yards than Glenn and Kennison. Moulds was elite and if he and Josh played together he'd have multiple triple crowns.

Some fans have irrational perspectives on things. In the end, everything in the NFL will and has always been judged based on wins and losses. Poyer and Shady both have spoken and continue to speak highly of Buffalo every chance they get. Poyer has shown up this season and I'm hopeful we can keep him somehow, but if not, I wish him the best for the rest of his career.

It really doesn't matter how much production Reed had, it's clear you're going to do anything to smear Moulds talent and play, like attacking him personally. What does that have anything to do with how he was on the field? At the end of the day, he had almost identical career numbers as Reed without any HOF quarterbacks... unlike Reed. He did just as much if not more with much less.

coming from a guy making as many poor excuses as you? No I don’t. But it is Friday night so yolo

He actually averaged over 20 yards per catch that season. Put down the sauce sir!

I’ve read some bad takes on here but this is probably one of the worst. Inventing excuses of why Moulds couldn’t produce with horrendous QB’s while inventing excuses Andre Reed couldn’t produce inside a much better offense, lol. The reason they threw to him is because literally they had no other receivers. Peerless Price and who else? I honestly might frame this take.

Please continue comparing Andre's prime with Kelly to Moulds' prime with Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie, Todd Collins, Alex Van Pelt, and Drew Bledsoe lol. A prime Moulds with JA would have made him look better than Randy Moss. Moulds came within 4,000 yards of Reed's 13,000 career yards, even though Reed played 5 more seasons than Moulds. He will and should be considered one of the biggest wastes of talent in Bills history thanks to our haunting ineptitude after the Super Bowl era team. For god's sake he put up over 1,000 yards with Rob Johnson as his QB in a season.

My thought is a lot of these sports media analysts who have never credited Josh’s development are often times clinging emotionally to a last stand. If we win on Sunday it’ll be interesting to see what new excuses they develop even though Burrow has never thrown for more than 2 TDs in games against KC and Josh has done it in every game against KC.

Believe he called the season opener against the Rams too