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Well criticism aside I'm happy to give Marrone another year before I pass any judgement. But this Crossman thing bothers me. It bothered me when he was hired and it bothers me even more now.

I really like the no-huddle concept quite a bit. I hope for the day that the Bills become very adept at running it. I think the offense needs more talent though. I also agree that the no-huddle might be more beneficial in the long term than it was in the short term.

Redshirt freshman apparently. He looks very athletic and very smooth.

Okay. This thread's been hijacked. By the Oklahoma QB. Who is this guy? Shades of Joe Montana.

Thanks. Speaking of shredding, Oklahoma seems to have lost the ability to tackle.

Just started watching. Busy evening. How does Mosley look? Looked good on that play.

Well, 14 points is by no means insurmountable.

WOW!!! The Tide behind by 14 at the half?!?!?!?!?

I think also it speaks to the difficulty and competitiveness of the league. Most of these owners are intelligent and successful people. And yet how many of them own teams which experience consistently excellent success on the playing field? Even many of the "hands off" owners preside over terrible teams.

Update: Totals from his last 3 games of the season (after his breakout game): Targets: 14 Receptions: 8 Yards: 85 TDs: 0 It's a tough league for rookie wideouts but the kid showed something. Season Totals: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/16159/darick-rogers

Good topic. Thanks for posting. For the discussion, here are the same stats for the 2012 regular season. The playoff teams are bolded: http://instantreplay1.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/2012-final-passer-rating-differential/

I'm not really considering if slowing down the offense would have helped the "offensive" performance but simply running a bit more time off the clock seems like it would have helped the defense see fewer possessions and be a little bit more well-rested. Would you buy that?

I think you underestimate the loss of Chas Rheingarten in the leadership department.

Isn't this an indictment of the no-huddle offense the Bills ran this season? Didn't the Bills mix in some huddles and slow the pace of their no-huddle towards the end of the season? Is it possible that a no-huddle attack wasn't the best approach for a rookie QB and 2 rookie wideouts among the top 4?

Exactly right. Chandler has 4 fumbles in 135 receptions. Tight ends and fullbacks are NEVER supposed to fumble. And a few of Chandler's fumbles were very avoidable being caused by people he had beaten on the pattern who caught him from behind. That shows a glaring lack of awareness IMO. That said he's a good receiving tight end who is open even when he's covered. I'd like to see him re-signed and I'd also like to see the Bills upgrade the position. It seems like most of those were drive-killing holding penalties too.

I mentioned upthread how Aaron Rodgers' mechanics improved greatly AFTER working with Tedford. However in fairness to Tedford, he's credited with developing Billy Volek, Trent Dilfer and David Carr at Fresno, Akili Smith, Jay Feeley and Joey Harrington at Oregon, and Aaron Rodgers and Kyle Boller at Cal. My main reservation about Tedford would be that he has zero NFL experience. Of course I didn't like that about Chip Kelly and Kelly did a brilliant job this year.

I wasn't aware that Whaley made a comment about Moorman. Did he also say that the team didn't plan to bring another punter to camp?

Interesting topic. I think saying that you're starting on your own side of the 50 is way too vague. That could be your own 1 yard line or your own 49 yard line. Off the top of my head I'd start with a fantasy football-based model: I would say that offensively you should give 1 point for every 10 yards and 6 points for a TD and 3 points for a field goal. You could give an additional 1-2 points for each first down. To me this would be a better starting premise.

I have no clue about leadership among the Bills players. The following are some personal guesses: Fred Jackson is probably the best leader on the team. Eric Wood is a quiet leader. I would say that Kyle Williams is a "standup guy" but not necessarily a leader. Mario Williams does not seem like a leader to me. Kiko can be a leader but he's a rookie and hasn't earned his stripes yet. Stevie Johnson is not a leader. I would also say that the roster has a lot of young and unproven players. Partly due to youth, this is obviously not a team with a Lewis/Suggs/Reed or Urlacher/Briggs/Tillman dynamic or anything like that.

:lol: You mean the guy who was hired 2 months ago? I think what Marrone was saying was b.s. He and Whaley assembled the roster. By absolving Crossman of blame by pointing the finger at the players, he's indirectly pointing the finger at himself and Whaley. I really hate to say it but while this doesn't stink as much as the Wade Phillips-Ronnie Brown fiasco, it has a similar smell.

There's beaches along Oatka Creek? Welcome aboard.

Does everyone remember when Bruce Arians "retired" from the Steelers? Gilbride is one year older than Arians. I wonder if Gilbride was guaranteed the money on the last year of his contract under the condition that he toe the company line?

Realistically, the way the game has changed in the 30+ years since Kelly was drafted, there's no way he would have lasted till the 14th pick in today's world. To your first paragraph, one thing that happened in preseason was that Manuel was looking better than Kolb. That's where all that talk started. And do you remember all the Tuel buzz after his performance against Indy? As you know, casual fans will sway in the breeze. That's not entirely fair, Beerball. I'm not sure when you posted but he might have missed a game or two after you posted your thought and subsequently, EJ then missed the last 2 games of the season. On a grey scale, the tipping point for many people's opinions certainly could have been determined by EJ missing the last two games. Fair? Agreed. As I said upthread, lets see the actions of the teams in a few months compared to the rhetoric. At this point its only words which to me is meaningless.

That's fine but what did Schotty do after the Bills ignored him? Fair question, no?

I'm surprised it's that low. Although as Jeff points out, there was a lot of anti-Byrdism out there in August and September.