HardyBoy

For sure on the 3rd and 18, but we need to wait for the All-22 before we can say too much there...could have been a blown coverage or a great play call against the defense that opened the middle if the field up. The issue is he wasn't contacted 5 yards sooner, not that they were in a shell.

The only goal there is to get up by three scores, period, end of story. They were in perfect position to do that before the Watt sack and Allen got rattled after that, which happens and impacted everything that came after it...and they still almost won. Put away the pitchforks. That was the biggest game of Josh Allen's life he'll learn from this. Shoot it took Lebron James getting posted up by JJ Barea and the Mavs to learn the lessons that allowed him to mentally excel in that level of stress and expectation.

Tre did a very similar thing after a game sealing int earlier this year and they said he gave himself up. That in no way should be a touchdown, it would have been garbage.

I think it's very important to not forget the number of high wind games the bills played in this year. I know this cuts both ways, but the defense is really good and is pretty consistent in not giving up points in great conditions. I think if the Bills had started the season with the turnover rate they ended the season with, the pf number is a lot higher (the pa number would be lower too, because they set teams up in scoring position when they turned it over). I feel like arguing this point: the Bills offense got significantly better over the course of the season, based largely, but not only, on the turnover numbers, but the insane winds hid that improvement. The other games that weren't windy were against the Pats and Steelers (top 5 defenses).

Yes, but his entire knee turned as well and it looked like his foot was planted enough where his knee twisted.

I'll potentially give you screens, but Josh Allen is amazing at play action.

Wow, could have sworn it was a twisted knee...great news!

Sophie's Choice!...picture this: a human hanging by their fingers on the edge of a cliff, next to them the bills emblem. Your choice, but you can only save one of them. You let the human go, you are directly responsible for the death of a human, you save human, the Bills move to a different city and change the team name...think Burbank Showcase Showdowns What do you choose??

Yes, bringing up fictional characters, it's more fun that way...you're right though on the wrong sport, should have brought up Bobby Bouche... Probably not heart rate monitors, but they do have accelerometers on (or the stadiums are set up to track that stuff). Based on baseline data I'm sure they are collecting in practice with what a player's heart rate gets to when running so fast for so long, they should be able to fairly confidently judge heart rates in game without a heart rate checker. As far as being serious...yeah mostly. I'm just trying to take down the straw man of practice or even just walking down the street is risky, so therefore games are no more risky. It's like saying an F1 racer has as much chance of dying on the way to the race going 65 mph on a highway as dying going 200+ in a racecar. Perhaps my approach isn't as nuanced as it typically is (or maybe I think it is, lol), but cut me a bit of slack, I just had my second son a week ago, and I'm tired!!

Oh I'm 100% for keeping them out of the game and if staying game fit is even something playing into the decision having the players hit their game fit thresholds in warm-up or a simulated game before the game. There just aren't the roster spots to do that. Even where you have a backup, they're not game fit to play 40 snaps when they usually play 6. You can't ask Perry to carry 20 times, he very much most likely does not have the game fitness and will pull a hamstring or something.

Yes, you're making up a different argument that is easier to win and arguing that instead of the one we are having, but acting like it proves your point. The chance of an injury in practice for JA with a red non-contact jersey are not the same as in a game. I have no doubt that boxing league Rocky was fighting in at the start of the movie had boxers fighting weekly btw. I love the passion you are brining to this discussion, and I really do think you are approaching this genuinely (would be an awesome troll job though!), but yes logical fallacy:

Now I will say this. They have a sports science dept and detailed stats on each player in terms of their acceleration, top speed, cut abgle, etc with all sorts of variables baked in. They know how much rest will cause certain players and positions will cause them to get out of game fitness/shape. My guess, there will be certain players that the moment they hit a certain heart rate or some other measure they will get pulled. My guess is also for many players those benchmarks could get hit in pregame warm-ups.

That's a straw man, I'm not talking about practice, I'm talking about games...stop with the logical fallacies please. So why wouldn't Rocky fight some random dude the week or four before his fight with Apollo?

Ok...so Rocky in movie Rocky...he gets a shot at the champ for the title...it's a super long shot, but it's still a shot. What would you say if he fought a totally meaningless fight against some schlub who was potentially soaking his gloves in plaster the week before he got his shot? What if he broke his hand in that meaningless fight and couldn't fight against Apollo?

So McD calls a timeout so can get a free look at how the cowboys would respond to a specific pressure look later in the game, Romo gets hearts in his eyes for McD, people who understand football on this board go wild with praise...yet it's just two series in this case, no big deal...that was one play, clearly it matters! If you look at Allen's progression it is jagged. People figure him out, he looks rough for a week or two, he adjusts looks awesome, they figure him out, he looks bad, Bills adjust he looks great again. Why would you want a top 20 all time d coordinator to get a chance to show a pressure package with backend coverage that confuses JA a week before a one and done situation?! And just to help me clarify...the argument is you could fall on the ground walking to your car in the morning so therefore base jumping off a cliff is not risky...logical falicy much?

Unless they are missing tackles because they aren't rested, which is a heck of a lot more likely than them suddenly forgetting how to tackle. They don't have the roster spots to rest everyone, and the backups aren't game fit to play huge snaps. You're really talking Barkely for Allen, Duke for Brown or Beasley, Sweeney for Knox and Yeldon for Singletary. The rest of the starters would have to be active because they don't have players that are game fit enough to cover the position for a full game without greatly increasing the risk of injury.

Yeah, the way Allen reacts to an exotic pressure/coverage combo that he's never seen before is on tape already...ok?

What happens if Gregg figures something out on how to stop JA, puts it on tape and the Bills don't have enough time to figure out how to counter it before the wild card? Williams isn't just a dirty coach, he's arguably a top 20 all time d coordinator.

Damn your superior logic : )

Yes, the official on the field announces it...if you're at the game they announce the tackle reporting eligible what feels like a few times a drive...you rarely if ever hear it on tv though...therefore they mute the call on the broadcast, because you extremely rarely hear it...replay the dawkins td...did you hear him report eligible?

Bill Russell's Celtics probably? 11 championships in his 13 year career, including 8 straight.

They rarely play the announcement on tv...live the tackle declares eligible a whole lot, it's just that it happens early in the play clock and the broadcast doesn't play it because the announcers are talking. Also, it means you can't have another player lined up on the line of scrimmage on that side of the field, and you can only have a certain number of players in the backfield or one one side of the field. I have ti imagine it limits formations a lot and forces you to be a lot more predictable coming out of the huddle.

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I am going to a concert tonight at the North Beach Bandshell. The show starts at 7, and I live up in Fort Lauderdale, so I need to watch the game down that way otherwise I'll miss a lot of both (doors open at 7, but guessing it will not actually start until right around when the game ends, so it's perfect). Any recommendations? (mods no worries if you decide to lock this, but if you could leave this open just long enough for me to get a few recs that would be awesome!)

Yeah, so that's not analytics as a whole, you're describing bad analytics. Those next gen player movement stats are analytics too. They show how much acceleration a player needs to get off the line and how much separation that player needs to have if you want to run a specific route. Then you can use that to see how long the line needs to hold up for, and how quickly the type of defender going against the type of player you have typically holds up. That is analytics as well. Just because people are potentially using bad stats doesn't make analytics bad, it makes the stats bad. I would be shocked if the bills are not already looking at stuff like that for player aquisition and gameplanning purposes (I mean why the hell not: if there is anyone on the Bills analytics team on here, I can code in R at a high intermediate level. My dream is to break down silos and allow people to get into flow states to fast track growth of individuals, teams and an overall organization by looking at individual components in a holistic way, and finding connections where they are often missed by others because individually the connection points are thought of as insignificant, but big picture are the keys to bring it all together).