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Fair point. But there's also Glenn, Woods, Kiko, Aaron Williams, Gilmore, Bradham. The bulk of the talent on this team is put in place by Nix, not Whaley. Having said that, he wasn't perfect. The Fitz extension (although from that tapped phone call, it seems as though he wasn't the only one behind it), and passing on Russell WIlson were terrible moves. But to be fair, every team passed on Wilson at least twice. Some more than that.

Buddy Nix gets such a bad rap here and a lot of it is unfair. He added quite a bit of talent to this roster. In fact, the two best players on the team (Dareus, Mario) are Nix acquisitions.

So 2000, 2005, 2010... Great.

The premise of all the Kiko-McCoy trade talk is the Bills getting some line help and an upgrade at tight end. But if they do that, they would have been fine sticking with Fred and whoever else they got in free agency. Not to mention still having Kiko. Not sure if people realize that McCoy has played behind a top notch oline his whole career and has been coached by smart offensive minds. Darren Sproles actually had a much better rushing average than him last season. I can't think of another running back who has been as fortunate as McCoy. He's good, but he's not as good as most here think. Put him on the Bills last year, and how do you think he would have done with our 32nd rated offensive line? Lower your expectations about him being the difference-maker here because it's not going to happen. The offense will still suck and be carried by the defense again. But we do have an easier schedule, and the defense (barring injuries) has the potential to be even better under Rex, so anything's possible.

God dammit. I wanted Bradford to come to Buffalo.

Oh, and screw you Donte Whitner.

No thanks. Re-sign Lee Smith.

https://twitter.com/jchenelly He's Kyle Williams' less athletic twin brother.

Excellent post! Couldn't have said it better myself. Bryce Brown holds the ball like it's a dirty diaper. I'd be happy to never see that guy in a bills uniform again.

Peyton Manning has made a lot of people a lot more money than they would have otherwise.

Fred Jackson ‏@Fred22Jackson 2m2 minutes ago Extremely humbled by all the fan support. Means a lot that so many people love to see me in play in a Bills' uniform. edit: and with this, the thread title can be changed...

Wow. That's a long time to wait.

13. Pete Metzelaars 14. Ron Heller 15. Mike Mularkey

Maybe not. But Fred defies logic. Never underestimate the guy.

Let him go trip over the 5 yard line in another stadium. Putz.

The guy who could make the biggest difference is Cutler. That contract though...

Man, if they can fix this line, and Roman is not anything like niners fans say he is, I would love to see how Fred does. Perhaps he'll unseat another hotshot player that is meant to carry the load. Again.

What does that even mean?

Those are overly simple and meaningless stats without context. Not many players could have been successful with that dumpster fire of an offense last year. Even on that big run in Chicago in OT, there was a blocking assignment missed by the guard that Wood made up for with his own stiff arm to the rusher. The line was absolutely atrocious this past season.

Even the Fred supporters are kind of selling him short here. I thought he played really well last season relatively speaking. He was hurt, he played behind an awful o-line that had defenders in the backfield before he got the ball half the time, he had no QB support which led to opposing defenses selling out for the run, and he had crap offensive coaching. Look at how CJ and Bryce Brown did in the same situation.

I love what Fred brings in regards to intangibles, but forgetting all that, and strictly speaking in regards to on-field play, how could anyone think that he's not better than Bryce Brown? I don't understand the front office wanting to cut him, especially if they are in "win now" mode. His salary is paltry in the grand scheme of things.

So our owner understands offensive football better than our gm. Nice. If true, thanks Terry! This is a close second to you keeping the team in Buffalo.

If this is true, which I'm guessing it is, that is grounds for firing Whaley on the spot.

If they're doing this based on analytics, then they are working analytics wrong. Idiots.

Would it matter if he was 24 instead of 34? I'm pretty sure you aren't even aware that he has less career carries than McCoy. Look beyond his age. Look beyond the fact he's never actually been a burner. Look at what he was able to do with that awful line and with Marrone as a coach compared to the other running backs on the team. The guy has been underrated his whole career from a national standpoint. It shouldn't be that way in Buffalo where I'm guessing people actually watch the games.