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Ease up, folks. I believe what the OP is trying to say is that he'd rather lose with Fitz than win with Brady (or at least take his chances rooting for someone he likes rather than someone he doesn't). I can respect that, even though I don't share that thought process. There's obviously not even a discussion as to who's better. But count me among the few around here that actually likes Brady. Ya, he can be a bit of a whiner at times, but a lot of the great ones are ultra-competitive like that (Gretzky, Jordan, Lemieux, Crosby, Manning, etc..). The guy was a 6th rounder and never projected to amount to much. Imagine if he was a Bill and attained the same amount of success? Jim Kelly would be an after-thought. I think the fact that he's been the second biggest reason why the Pats have been whipping our asses for years is why everyone hates him (still think Belichick is the straw that stirs the drink in NE). And to put it bluntly, that is the ultimate compliment to the guy.

He's out for the year. But like others have said, that wasn't the play that he got hurt on. They even showed a replay of him just falling awkwardly when he went out.

I rewatched the entire Monday night opener against NE from two years ago on Friday. Didn't even look away or turn it off when McLovin fumbled. I'd like to think my sacrifice pleased the football Gods. Next Friday is the Dallas Monday nighter from 2007. Pretty sure I can probably find 17 more stomach-churning defeats from recent history to help us go undefeated this year. And probably another 19 different ones next year.

That was unreal. Was kind of crappy that they just ran the clock out after that.

I don't think Spiller's as bad as a lot of people say. I place some blame on the run blocking. Everyone seems to think that the blocking is okay because FJ does well with it. I think FJ actually makes them look good because he is that talented.

I'm a huge fan of Freddie and perhaps not the most objective viewer, but I think he's easily a top 10 back in the league and maybe even top 5. He just has such a unique way of playing. He never seems to make a mistake. I think breakaway speed is a bit overrated for a running back. Those 60+ yard runs are too rare. It's the 1-2 yard runs that he get 5-6 on that matter and he does that often and as good as anyone.

BUFFALO F'N BILLS!!!!!!!!

Now that he's gone, who's going to hut the ball to the QB's feet in shotgun?

Are some of you really stating that trading Evans for a 4th rounder was anything other than a bush-league move? Lets revisit the excuses thrown out there for doing it.. 1. He didn't like going over the middle because he didn't like getting hit - Horsecrap. If anything, Steve Johnson was the guy who would be afraid of getting hit and run out of bounds or fall down last year. Lee ran slants as well as anyone on the team. 2. Made too much money - No he didn't. There are other guys you get rid of before him if you're trying to save money (Kelsay, not re-sign Florence) 3. He's just a deep threat - Untrue. But even if it was, isn't having a guy like that key to keeping defenses honest? Especially when there's nobody else on the roster that can do it as well as he does? 4. He would leave by the time the team's good - This has got to be my favourite. The sad part it is, I think this is the actual reason they let him go. The fact is that he stuck around for his whole career on pretty much a terrible team. Why would he leave when they became good? Unless deep down they don't think they will be. In any case, good teams keep their good players and I don't know why everyone just automatically assumes he would leave in two years. 5. He requested a trade - Lee said he didn't and there's been no evidence to the contrary. Then Buddy Nix goes on the radio talking about how Evans' skill set wasn't good enough. Not in those exact words, but that was the gist of it. An asinine judgement for starters. But perhaps more importantly than that, incredibly classless (not to mention him knocking Hangartner also). In a league full of prima donna WRs, Evans was nothing but a model citizen and team player since he was drafted. Then you trade him and go on the radio and pretty much say he wasn't good enough to be on your team. Straight shooter? Maybe. Bad aim? Definitely.

What a dumb move by the Titans. No RB is worth anywhere close to that much. Should have let him sit.

The only thing he's missing is breakaway speed. He does everything else exceptionally well.

I like this Elzy fellow too. He reminds me of Lynch.

Bittersweet. He was my favourite Bill so it's good to see him doing well so far.

The short answer? It's because he's not as smart as you think he is. Lee is good at catching any kind of pass. Just because it's been said on this board over and over again that he's afraid to go over the middle doesn't make it true. Just off the top of my head I remember him catching one against the Jets and splitting the safeties to go in for the score. (Please save the "oh, one time" responses). This rationale you (and others who use that argument) use pretty much says that Lee could put up 1500 yards and 20 tds this year with the Ravens and it would still have been a good move to get rid of him because we can't take advantage of his skills in this offense. Well congrats because that mentality is shared by the front office at OBD and is the reason why we haven't seen a playoff game in over a decade. Basically what you're saying is no matter how talented the player is, his production will be capped because the rest of the offense isn't good enough to complement him. And that makes Gailey a good coach? If you ask me, that's actually a great argument against Gailey's coaching prowess. Who needs an all-pro talent when you have Felton Huggins? See that TD Saturday?

I really don't think trading Lee was a cost-cutting move. According to reports, they had already paid him a million bucks when camp started and his salary the next two years was around 6 million combined..hardly enough to break the bank. Something else must have happened behind the scenes after camp started. Whether Gailey the offensive guru wanted to showcase him even less than last year or whatever. Or its more along the lines of Nix wanting to build a team consisting of players he brought in on his own, even if it's to the detriment of the team. Being a Leafs fan, I see the same crap being pulled by Brian Burke the last couple of years with the Leafs so I can smell the BS. In any case, this is just another small example of why it's pretty much impossible to think that the Bills can ever compete for a Super Bowl again. We laugh and joke about it here but it's really quite sad that a lot of the posters on this board could do a better job at player personnel than the buffoons running the show for the last few years. Anyone with even a minute amount of football knowledge can see how talented Lee is but also how badly underused he was here. I wish him nothing but the best. Class act and he deserves all the accolades that are going to come his way in the near future.

Kicked in the calf...I was close! Geez, Kelsay will do anything to stay in the starting lineup. Yes, I just replied to my own post.

I'm guessing Kelsay tripped over his own shoelace and landed on Dareus' ankle.

hahaha that is signature-worthy

That fumble, along with Stevie's drop, helped us land Dareus! Hand him and Spiller starting jobs this year and welcome Andrew Luck to the fold next April.

I refuse to believe that Gailey can be this stupid. Like it was stated above, Freddie's not only the best back on this team by a country mile, but the best in the division. I'd be willing to bet that Spiller will never be as good as Jackson is right now. As Bill from NYC opined in another thread, this could very well be a decision from higher up in the organization, which is quite sad and probably worse than just simply a coaching blunder. Again, this is just a theory with no factual evidence but I feel that 'football politics' is what's really going on here. The Buffalo Bills are a sick organization. And I mean sick in the traditional sense, not the way the kids use the word nowadays. First the ridiculous Evans move and now this. It really makes it hard to root for them and I can't say I've ever been more disheartened with this team than I am right now.

what's wrong with saying busted? when you get busted for lying to your spouse, or eating the last cookie in the cookie jar, are you also getting arrested? he simply means busted = got caught let it go, folks

Like many others have stated, the issue is not whether you wanted him on your team or not. It's whether your team should have an equal shot as anyone else to land him (or any other player). The outrage isn't because he had a great year last year. Honestly, every football fan, not just Bills or Bengals, should be upset about this if it's true. It doesn't have to be Michael Vick. It could have been Aaron Maybin. Same deal.

Damn, just thinking of having Vick throwing to Evans the last couple of years makes me want to kick Goodell in the balls.

haha..that was a good one but still..ouch

To be fair, I believe he was just using an exaggerated example to disagree with your comment saying that not everyone should be tradeable. Nobody in their right mind would give up 5 firsts for anyone on the Bills, but the point I believe was that if you get a trade offer for any roster player that you think makes your team better in the short and long term, you do it. Can't say I disagree with that.