silvermike Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm all for bringing in an established vet, but I'm really not sure who's going to be available. The most notable free agents will be Jason Campbell and Kyle Orton, and I'm guessing Orton at least will be retained by his current club. Campbell isn't bad, but isn't great, either. At some point, you're going to have to roll the dice on a a first round QB, or else just hope you back into one (Someone lets Drew Brees become a free agent, your 6th round pick from Michigan breaks out). The question is how long you wait to put the other pieces in place before you pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Quarterback is the most important position on the field, but not for this team. They need OTs, and someone like Terrance Cody from Alabama at DT. They need a linebacker who weighs more than Julia Roberts. They need another tight end, and probably a receiver. A qb would be a ticket seller, and little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 A qb would be a ticket seller, and little more. This team obviously thinks with thier wallets, and not with their football acumen. I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted someone like Tebow to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 He has a weak arm and his numbers are inflated by playing in a top program. Need I remind you of the last first rounder we took from Texas? I like Jevan Snead and even better, if he comes out as a junior, Jake Locker from Washington. Snead has completely underwhelmed me. I had high hopes given his conference but he has just looked like just another guy so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 McCoy is another Texas big name bust-waiting-to-happen. Pass. Only because he's so damn overrated. I'd only take him in the 4th or 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Quarterback is the most important position on the field, but not for this team. They need OTs, and someone like Terrance Cody from Alabama at DT. They need a linebacker who weighs more than Julia Roberts. They need another tight end, and probably a receiver. A qb would be a ticket seller, and little more. A great QB can mask a bad o-line performance (just look at Rothelisberger). Problem is, there aren't any QBs in this draft who can do that, so I tend to agree they should go OT/DT/LB in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Blow it up and wait for Forcier. That guy is gonna be a football god. I hate Michigan and didnt want to believe. This guy has balls and he is a winner. In the meantime I like Pike a lot. lol at Claussen. Im sick of Notre Dame fans trying to sell this kid. I wouldnt be pissed at a Bradford pick, but Im an Oklahoma fan. I would love to see them take the TE Gresham with their second pick, even if they had to trade down to the end of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 seriously this is a stupid thread but the bills need a 1st rounder to get back into things.. Please I want MCCOY... Peyton Manning would fail under the current coaching and management. Until the coaches and front office are cleaned out - nothing will change. Players come and go yet the story remains the same - bad management from top to bottom is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I don't think Bradford or McCoy are the answer. There aren't really any quarterbacks out there with a strong enough arm. I would like to see someone out there with a cannon. How did we pass on Jay Cutler? You must be enjoying the outstanding career of the cannon-armed QB in OAkland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Blow it up and wait for Forcier. That guy is gonna be a football god. I hate Michigan and didnt want to believe. This guy has balls and he is a winner. This. That dude is going to be a stud. He just makes plays. But in the meantime, darft some OT's and an OLB and a DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm all for bringing in an established vet, but I'm really not sure who's going to be available. The most notable free agents will be Jason Campbell and Kyle Orton, and I'm guessing Orton at least will be retained by his current club. Campbell isn't bad, but isn't great, either. At some point, you're going to have to roll the dice on a a first round QB, or else just hope you back into one (Someone lets Drew Brees become a free agent, your 6th round pick from Michigan breaks out). The question is how long you wait to put the other pieces in place before you pull the trigger. I wouldn't take Campbell. Orton I'd take in a heartbeat. He's not pretty, but he wins. That's all that counts. Last year we could have signed Jeff Garcia. He'd be better than Trent. Even Seneca Wallace would be better then Trent and he was a free agent this year. If he only lasts a year or two, so what? Then get someone else. I cant' predict the future, but if the Bills were aggressive, someone would be available and they could get him. The thought of sacrificing 3 more seasons for a rookie to "learn" is a worst case scenario for me. Many FA or trade bait QBs have taken their team to SB like Kurt Warner, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Matt Hasselback, Craig Morton, Jeff Hosstettler, Doug Williams ... In fact, HOF coach Joe Gibbs won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QBs. You don't have to have one guy as the "frachise QB" to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 hmmm well edwards will probably get at least one more year. i think we should just draft another qb from the U, jacorrrrry harris, cuz i mean last time we drafted a qb from there it ended up working out pretty welll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC882 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Do you think McCoy would have been able to do a damn thing behind that line yesterday? Could Johnny Unitas have won the game behind that line, for that matter? I'll keep saying it until we finally get one: BUILD THE OLINE!!!! This "fix the O-line" crap to excuse Edwards play is rediculous. Good QB's find a way to play well despite their O-lines. The Steelers and Green Bay are good examples of that, they both have bad O-lines, yet Big Ben and Rogers play very well and put their teams in positions to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC882 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 This team obviously thinks with thier wallets, and not with their football acumen. I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted someone like Tebow to do just that. Crap, your right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 This "fix the O-line" crap to excuse Edwards play is rediculous. Good QB's find a way to play well despite their O-lines. The Steelers and Green Bay are good examples of that, they both have bad O-lines, yet Big Ben and Rogers play very well and put their teams in positions to win. Rodgers is 8-12, with 2 win over last year's winless Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I can't believe no one has mentioned this kid from Houston - Case Keenum (pronounced casey). QB is ticky scouting assignment. Everyone here is naming big school popular QBs. Look at the guy and see if A)he can make NFL throws, B)good pocket presence, C)moves the ball up and down the field, D)is he good or product of the system?, E)just makes plays, F)wins G)size, H)good knowledge of time (internal clock, knows D&D, TOs, etc). That is how you scout for NFL QBs. Tebow - are you kidding me? he is not an NFL QB (fails A, C, D). He is not at all fast enough to be a wildcat QB either. Snead- hes OK - not franchise. hyped too much Mccoy - hes average, hyped too much Forcier - kind of like Tebow, he will be a great college player but not an NFL arm. too small in general the big ten is a joke - and ND plays lots of the big ten so I don't look at good performance from QBs that play these teams. Pike - I really like him, but I think he is like Harrell, Daniels - product of the spread. I think he is better than those two though Bradford - hes better than OK, dont know if hes franchise - kind of like deer in headlights, has really good players around him big 12 teams don't play defense Keenum - just watch him, A-H, not to mention he is fiery and a great leader. Also he is very athletic, can run well. Runs a spread like offense, but he is not a product of the system - as a frosh everyone at houston was like OMG we have a steal. *Yes I am a scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I can't believe no one has mentioned this kid from Houston - Case Keenum (pronounced casey). QB is ticky scouting assignment. Everyone here is naming big school popular QBs. Look at the guy and see if A)he can make NFL throws, B)good pocket presence, C)moves the ball up and down the field, D)is he good or product of the system?, E)just makes plays, F)wins G)size, H)good knowledge of time (internal clock, knows D&D, TOs, etc).That is how you scout for NFL QBs. Tebow - are you kidding me? he is not an NFL QB (fails A, C, D). He is not at all fast enough to be a wildcat QB either. Snead- hes OK - not franchise. hyped too much Mccoy - hes average, hyped too much Forcier - kind of like Tebow, he will be a great college player but not an NFL arm. too small in general the big ten is a joke - and ND plays lots of the big ten so I don't look at good performance from QBs that play these teams. Pike - I really like him, but I think he is like Harrell, Daniels - product of the spread. I think he is better than those two though Bradford - hes better than OK, dont know if hes franchise - kind of like deer in headlights, has really good players around him big 12 teams don't play defense Keenum - just watch him, A-H, not to mention he is fiery and a great leader. Also he is very athletic, can run well. Runs a spread like offense, but he is not a product of the system - as a frosh everyone at houston was like OMG we have a steal. *Yes I am a scout Shouldnt you be out scouting then? I mean it is football season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I just want a QB who played college ball in a winter city. No more California QBs. I want a QB who is used to playing in the cold. If it means we wait then we wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Blaine Gabbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm not sold on Colt, but I also did not think Matt Ryan or Flacco would be that good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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