Cookiemonster Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I don't know, but it seems to me that Parrish is not himself, and I don't think that he is nursing and injury or anything, is he laying down some?, pissed about them trying to trade him, lack of opportunities, his lack of production, not being compensated, enough, or is it just lack of motivation? I realize, that it usually isn't wise to do that, so WTH is it then with him? Maybe our ST have slipped as well, accounting for his struggles on KR & PR's. Trent rarely throws his way any more, is he washed up or what? Why can't we use him like NE uses Welker? Use him or lose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 He laid on the ground right after his game changing fumble last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I don't know, but it seems to me that Parrish is not himself, and I don't thinkthat he is nursing and injury or anything, is he laying down some?, pissed about them trying to trade him, lack of opportunities, his lack of production, not being compensated, enough, or is it just lack of motivation? I realize, that it usually isn't wise to do that, so WTH is it then with him? Maybe our ST have slipped as well, accounting for his struggles on KR & PR's. Trent rarely throws his way any more, is he washed up or what? Why can't we use him like NE uses Welker? Use him or lose him. No, the Bills can't use him like Welker because he's not that kind of receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I don't know, but it seems to me that Parrish is not himself, and I don't thinkthat he is nursing and injury or anything, is he laying down some?, pissed about them trying to trade him, lack of opportunities, his lack of production, not being compensated, enough, or is it just lack of motivation? I realize, that it usually isn't wise to do that, so WTH is it then with him? Maybe our ST have slipped as well, accounting for his struggles on KR & PR's. Trent rarely throws his way any more, is he washed up or what? Why can't we use him like NE uses Welker? Use him or lose him. Trent hardly has any time to throw the ball and it is hard to find Parrish in the middle of the field because he is small. Also, I am not sure why Parrish will lay down, because a Trade for him is a ticket out of here to showcase what he could do as a WR with another team. The Bills are just muddled in a injury-ridden start to the season and the coaching staff is just not putting them in a position to win the battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Trent rarely throws his way any more, is he washed up or what? Why can't we use him likeNE uses Welker? Use him or lose him. Why is there an undying belief that Parrish = Welker? have those of you who continue to argue this thought about the facts? One, his stats as a WR in no way signal that he is a threat on the field as a WR. Two, have you bothered to think that maybe he just does not consistently get open? Three, he has been trade bait so why has no NFL team broken down the door to get him? Folks face up to the reality - the guy is not a NFL capable WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I don't know, but it seems to me that Parrish is not himself, and I don't thinkthat he is nursing and injury or anything, is he laying down some?, pissed about them trying to trade him, lack of opportunities, his lack of production, not being compensated,enough, or is it just lack of motivation? Is his agent Eugene Parker? If so this could be a negotiation strategy. I think Parish is directly affected by new rule regarding wedges - he needs those wedges to make the seems to run through for he is too small to break tackles. Parish misses his wedgie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonster Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Why is there an undying belief that Parrish = Welker? have those of you who continue to argue this thought about the facts? One, his stats as a WR in no way signal that he is a threat on the field as a WR. Two, have you bothered to think that maybe he just does not consistently get open? Three, he has been trade bait so why has no NFL team broken down the door to get him? Folks face up to the reality - the guy is not a NFL capable WR. Fair enough, but you see guys like Percy Harvin, and other darters like him, come in and have instant success, maybe Tolbert's the problem, our other wide outs haven't exactly been lighting it up either, and I have seen other teams get more with less. I don't think that Welker's early stats as a wideout were all that impressive, Pre-Brady and the Pats, so maybe it's just the schemes, more than Roscoe not being "NFL capable". But I just don't get the impression that Roscoe is properly motivated, for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Did you see him run down that guy in the TB game? Didn't look like he was laying down to me. He had a nice 20 yard punt return against TB. If anything, on the returns I think he's trying too hard to break every one. If there's nothing there, he should just go down and not try to wiggle around to get more. That just causes penalties and fumbles. Roscoe could be OK if they just threw pass play designed for him to get the ball in the open so he can run with it. Like we did in the Jets game in 2007. That was beautiful. We should do it again this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonster Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Did you see him run down that guy in the TB game? Didn't look like he was laying down to me. He had a nice 20 yard punt return against TB. If anything, on the returns I think he's trying too hard to break every one. If there's nothing there, he should just go down and not try to wiggle around to get more. That just causes penalties and fumbles. Roscoe could be OK if they just threw pass play designed for him to get the ball in the open so he can run with it. Like we did in the Jets game in 2007. That was beautiful. We should do it again this Sunday. Yeah, I did, I forgot about that Don BBesque play, and that was very nice. But, although, I am not claiming outright that he has mailed it in, I stand by my claim that he is not motivated. and it is effecting him, that and schemes, the play were we just turn and fire to him, wr screen, isn't very well designed. It doesn't work, so yes we have to get it to him in wide open spaces to effectively utillize him. I do think that Roscoe is NFL cabable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I don't like Parish for anything other than punt returns. He is too easy to knock down. I have never seen him break a tackle. He seems to get knocked down by a hand waving near him. I have no problems trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 We cant use roscoe, so why have him? He would be a huge weapon with almost any other team. Can you say Ice Cube Mcneil? Except roscoe is a better receiver. Parrish is uncoverable on short outs, digs, slants, etc. But we dont run those patterns. I am amazed how each successive offensive coordinator is unable to include some of the staples of offense in his playbook. We have two running plays. Clearly, Jauron is the problem. Three offensive coordinators are less likely have the same problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I thought he was lying down, too. Turns out, that really is his height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 :censored: no you didn't! ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 We cant use roscoe, so why have him? He would be a huge weapon with almost any other team. Can you say Ice Cube Mcneil? Except roscoe is a better receiver. Parrish is uncoverable on short outs, digs, slants, etc. But we dont run those patterns. I am amazed how each successive offensive coordinator is unable to include some of the staples of offense in his playbook. We have two running plays. Clearly, Jauron is the problem. Three offensive coordinators are less likely have the same problems. Popular Bills' fans myths: - Angelo Crowell is an all pro LB. - JP Losman only failed because of bad coaching - Roscoe Parrish is (insert small, talented wr) a stud receiver being held back. RP is a great PR but is not really good at anything else. He can't block, so when's on the field, it's an obvious pass. He isn't a good KR and is a bad route runner. I like the guy but it was another terrible pick by a terrible GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Don't you think that if he had game like Welker, teams would be lining up to trade a 3rd or 4th for him? The truth is that he's not. He's small, he has no clue what "get up the field" means, can't block and it's been well known that he has mental lapses in routes and asssignments. I actually would like us to start using Steve Johnson more because the Roscoe experiment is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Popular Bills' fans myths: - Angelo Crowell is an all pro LB. - JP Losman only failed because of bad coaching - Roscoe Parrish is (insert small, talented wr) a stud receiver being held back. - Trent Edwards is anything more than an average NFL QB RP is a great PR but is not really good at anything else. He can't block, so when's on the field, it's an obvious pass. He isn't a good KR and is a bad route runner. I like the guy but it was another terrible pick by a terrible GM. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Wes Welker's worst season left him with 434 yards on Nick Saban and Gus Frerotte's Miami Dolphins. This not counting a season where he played only special teams. Roscoe Parrish's best season was good for 352 yards. Roscoe Parrish is not Wes Welker. He's a returner who may never end up with more than 20 receptions in a season again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Is his agent Eugene Parker? If so this could be a negotiation strategy. I think Parish is directly affected by new rule regarding wedges - he needs those wedges to make the seems to run through for he is too small to break tackles. Parish misses his wedgie. I doubt this, because the wedge rule affects only kickoffs, not punt. You don't see a wedge forming up on a punt return. He sucks on kick returns because he's not a kick returner. That requires an entirely different set of skills than a punt return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 if roscoe is to be an effective reciever, he has to get the ball in space (preferably a quick slant being led and hit in stride) so that he can accelerate and use all the quickness and speed he has at his disposal. i would also be interested in seeing some kind of wr screen with a wall of blockers running around the edge. unfortunately, the only pass i ever see thrown his way is that quick snap, turn and throw that does nothing but get the wr smacked about .03 seconds after the ball gets there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I don't know, but it seems to me that Parrish is not himself, and I don't thinkthat he is nursing and injury or anything, is he laying down some?, pissed about them trying to trade him, lack of opportunities, his lack of production, not being compensated, enough, or is it just lack of motivation? I realize, that it usually isn't wise to do that, so WTH is it then with him? Maybe our ST have slipped as well, accounting for his struggles on KR & PR's. Trent rarely throws his way any more, is he washed up or what? Why can't we use him like NE uses Welker? Use him or lose him. This offseason the NFL changed the rules on the 3-man wedge block on returns. This was the bread-and-butter of Bobby April the past few seasons as the Bills were ripping up the league in return yards. Now with the new changes, it seems that ALL of Buffalo's return game is suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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